Re: RE: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON
| From: | Arvids Godjuks | Date: | Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:12:33 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: RE: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON | ||
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Agreed, and really - my experience is that googling non-standard error
message usually give instant result. Googling for a common error
message could become a big time investment pointing to different
software even if you point to search engine for what software to look.
2010/11/1 Dennis Haarbrink <Dennis@born05.nl>:
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: Stan Vass [mailto:sv_forums@fmethod.com]
>> Verzonden: maandag 1 november 2010 10:19
>> Aan: internals@lists.php.net
>> Onderwerp: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to
>> T_DOUBLE_COLON
>> Urgentie: Laag
>>
>> It's amazing to me this has become such a long discussion. The facts
>> are
>> simple:
>>
>> 1) People don't ask for the other parse errors even half as often as
>> they as for T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
>> 2) They do so because it looks like gibberish to them, so it looks
>> unlikely to be a common thing you can Google, nor it gives something
>> recignizable to start with
>> 3) Yes, to all who are not sure, more people know English than Hebrew.
>> 4) Yes, we all acknowledge it's an easter egg joke that refers to the
>> creators of PHP. But that particular joke has outworn its welcome in
>> the community after repeatedly causing support issues.
>>
>> T_DOUBLE_COLON already exists as a constant in userland, so the jump
>> to it won't be an epic change. Let's do it as a proof that we're not a
>> nerd gridlock bound to argue forever about even the most minor and
>> obviously positive changes PHP can implement.
>>
>> Stan Vass
>>
>>
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>
> Come on people, what exactly is the problem with a once-in-a-lifetime investment of 5 seconds
> of your time to google some stupid error message. Something you, as a developer, spend your life
> doing.
>
> Please, stop complaining about a minor (yes, it is minor, use the fricking search engine!)
> annoyance and accept php's heritage.
>
> And please understand, I do get where all the opponents are coming from, it is an unnecessary
> complicated error message (I agree that the language argument is a moot point, in the world of
> internet and programming in particular, English is the standard), but you google it once in your
> life and then you 'forget' about it. And if you can't remember the meaning of
> something like that, I hardly doubt you'd be a decent programmer anyway.
>
> Regards,
> Dennis Haarbrink
>
>
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