Re: Re: RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux)

Big +1 on the patch. The ":" although a better choice would be asymmetric to how its done inside array(). On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:50 AM, dukeofgaming <dukeofgaming@gmail.com> wrote: > After that argument, I think I'm against ":" now too. +1 to "=>" > > Could "{ }" be implemented for objects too then?. > > Regards, > > David > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Ford, Mike <M.Ford@leedsmet.ac.uk> wrote: > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: ekneuss@gmail.com [mailto:ekneuss@gmail.com] On Behalf Of >> > Etienne Kneuss >> > Sent: 01 June 2011 01:57 >> > To: internals@lists.php.net >> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux) >> > >> > +1 for a short array syntax. >> > >> > But only if you keep it consistent, PHP has always been using => for >> > key/val association, I don't see any reason to suddenly provide >> > "key": >> > "val", unless what you want is to confuse people. >> >> Hear, hear and hear, hear to that! >> >> ['a': 'b'] just feels completely un-PHP-like, and I'd be totally >> against it. >> >> If the desire is to have a "native" JSON syntax so that you can eval() >> imported JSON, then I'm completely anti that, too -- that's a case >> where I'd far rather be explicit and use json_decode(). And since, no >> matter how you slice it, you're never going to get a complete fit >> between native PHP structures and JSON encoding, I don't believe you >> should even try. >> >> I just can't see the problem with saying: PHP arrays (and maybe >> objects?) look like *this*, and if you want to import/export them >> from/to a JSON representation, there are functions to do it like >> *this*. This seems to be the perfectly sensible approach of other >> languages I've used recently (although my perl is somewhat out-of-date, >> and my python even more out-of-daterer and minimal at that!). Even >> ECMAScript is going down the route of explicit conversion with >> JSON.parse() and JSON.stringify() in ECMAScript 5! >> >> All in all, still +1 for [1, 2=>2, 'a'=>'b'], and -several >> million (for >> style) for any syntax involving colons. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Mike >>  -- >> Mike Ford, >> Electronic Information Developer, Libraries and Learning Innovation, >> Leeds Metropolitan University, C507 City Campus, >> Portland Way, LEEDS,  LS1 3HE,  United Kingdom >> E: m.ford@leedsmet.ac.uk     T: +44 113 812 4730 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to >> http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm >> >