Re: Re: RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux)

Yeah, you'll note I am not actually advocating making a full JSON implementation in the PHP language. However, as per your point, JSON is no longer just a machine interchange format. It's many other things these days, including a query definition protocol. It's unlikely that the number of systems that use JSON as a descriptor or filter will decrease in the near future; many people are implementing JSON subsets or supersets in this format. And, as mentioned, that turns into a ton of typing when you start getting deeply nested - in a way that is not nearly as straight-forward as functionally identical JSON-like notation. So, considering all that, there is no real reason that I can see why it shouldn't be possible to facilitate the developer with an ability to more easily express these more complicated, nested examples. That's why everyone in Mexico was cheering. - M. -- Marcel Esser Vice President of Engineering, CROSCON +1 (202) 470-6090 marcel.esser@croscon.com Before printing this e-mail, please consider the rainforest. On 5/31/11 7:30 PM, "Michael Shadle" <mike503@gmail.com> wrote: >I've always considered json an awesome machine to machine interchange >format (the most efficient one) but not the easiest to read for >configuration or manually defining anything. > >I see nothing wrong with the initial example. Has worked well for years. >:) > > >On May 31, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Marcel Esser <marcel.esser@croscon.com> >wrote: > >> From the perspective of someone that's just trying to get stuff done: >> >> $packet = array('response' => array('status' => 1,'message' => >>''),'data' => array('id' => 1, 'username' => 'john doe')); >> >> $packet = ['response': ['status': 1, 'message': '', 'data': ['id': 1, >>'username': 'john doe'] ] ]; >> >> The clarity improvement above is an exponential function that gets >>better and better the more deeply nested you are. I don't know anyone >>that needs the ability to support full JSON notation in PHP, but there >>are entirely too many deeply nested array() declarations with lots of >>tabs in our lives, especially when we start working with things like >>JSON and/or Mongo or xyz. >> >> That's all I wanted to say to this. >> >> Cheers, >> M. >> >> -- >> Marcel Esser >> Vice President of Engineering, CROSCON >> +1 (202) 470-6090 >> marcel.esser@croscon.com >> >> Before printing this e-mail, please consider the rainforest.