Re: RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux)
| From: | Gwynne Raskind | Date: | Wed, 01 Jun 2011 00:29:13 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux) | ||
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+1
On May 31, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Brian Moon wrote:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shortsyntaxforarrays
>
> Since this was brought again recently by Rasmus (http://markmail.org/message/fx3brcm4ekh645se)
> and on Twitter where several people including Andi chimed in on it and Ilia seemed to reverse his
> thoughts as well (with caveats), I thought I would start a real thread about it. The reason the RFC
> stalled was stated as:
>
> "This patch will not be accepted because slight majority of the core developers voted
> against. Though if you take a accumulated mean between core developers and userland votes seems to
> show the opposite it would be irresponsible to submit a patch witch is not supported or maintained
> in the long run."
>
> So, the PHP users want it, but too many PHP core devs did not want it or did not see the use of
> it. From rereading the mailing list archive, most had the tone of "I don't see a reason
> for it." I was in that camp in 2003 when it first came up. However, with the emergence of JSON
> and systems that use JSON as an interface, this type of syntax would be most welcome in the day to
> day life of a PHP developer.
>
> I would prefer (as Rasmus pointed out) not to start a long discussion about it. Primarily I
> would be curious if anyone on the lists (from the RFC wiki page) below would like to change your
> vote or if you are not listed below and would like to be counted, that would be great too.
>
> PHP SVN account holder voters
> =============================
> Pro: Andrei Zmievski, Andi Gutmans, Pierre Joye, Rasmus Lerdorf, Stanislav Malyshev, Brian
> Moon, Kalle Sommer Nielsen, Edin Kadribasic
>
> Contra: Antony Dovgal, Derick Rethans, Jani Taskinen, Lokrain, Felipe Pena, Lukas Kahwe Smith,
> Marcus Boerger, David Soria Parra, Johannes Schlüter, Maciek Sokolewicz, Philip Olson, Ilia
> Alshanetsky, Daniel Brown, Jochem Maas, Hannes Magnusson, David Coallier
>
>
> Other voters
> ============
> Pro: Sebastian Deutsch, Ryusuke Sekiyama, Stefan Marr, Alexey Zakhlestin, Carl P. Corliss,
> Darius Jahandarie, Giedrius D, Eric Coleman, Max Antonov, Mike Ford, Larry Garfield, Sam Barrow,
> Taylor Luk, Hans Ahlin, Karoly Negyesi, Guilherme Blanco, Jonathan-Bond Caron
>
> Contra: Geoffrey Sneddon, Tomi Kaistila, David Zühlke
>
>
> --
> Brian.
> http://brian.moonspot.net
>
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-- Gwynne