Re: RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux)

State the case for JSON in a separate RFC and progress will be made, but I think there is a fundamental mistake here: serialization formats are the *means* for interoperability, not the ends. The only way I see JSONy syntax would help is if PHP code —with JSONy syntax— would be parsed by a JSON parser, and I don't think that is likely to happen... if you want PHP to have a data structure behave like JSON that is another story. Add use cases, syntax descriptions, and perhaps a patch for this JSON RFC and the main argument will be better understood; an RFC will help, visceral statements and personal attacks, on the other hand, won't, so I bet your time —and everybody else's— will be better spent in writing an RFC to defend it. Regards, David On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Sean Coates <sean@seancoates.com> wrote: > >>> If people vote on this now, will further discussion about how this > SHOULD > >>> work be shut down with "we already voted on this"? > >> which other discussions do you wish? Json is clearly not an option and > >> not enough people (but a couple) likes or wants it. > >> > >> The RFC is about short array syntax and as far as I can see there is > >> already a clear consensus for one of the proposed new syntax. > > > > I don't see why JSON (or JSON-like, or JavaScript Object Literal, or > whatever the least politically-fired term of the moment) syntax is "clearly" > not an option. I'm considering writing a new RFC that calls for first-class > JSONishy syntax, but I have better things to do if it's already dead in the > water. > > > > As much as I'd like to avoid drawing out this discussion, I think a > premature vote that will be used as a political wedge to shut down all > future syntaxes that don't use T_ARRAY is not in the best interest of PHP.. > > You can still vote -1 on this RFC and try to block it. That's the > purpose of the votes. But arguing endlessly why json-like syntax is > better without an alternative RFC and patch won't bring you anywhere. > > > Cheers, > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | > http://www.libgd.org > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >