Re: RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux)

Also, take a peak at this: http://www.phpsadness.com/sad/45 And compare it with this: http://perldoc.perl.org/perldsc.html#Declaration-of-a-HASH-OF-COMPLEX-RECORDS Regards, David Vega On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>wrote: > Hi! > > > I agree, it would be a break a lot of code. But I'd rather see some >> fundamental changes at that level (call it PHP 6, make it not BC with >> PHP 5.x or earlier), and remove the cruft and standardize on some of >> the slop. >> > > Fundamental changes means "throw out your production code and start > developing a new one". Guess how many PHP shops with existing code would be > happy to do it. It's nice to rant about how PHP function are inconsistent > and stuff, but no project was seriously impeded by it ever. At most it is > mildly irritating. Huge BC break, on the other hand, would mean all major > apps/libraries/frameworks become instantly not available, and who knows when > they catch up. At this point, you might as well have a new language. > > > Shorter array syntax seems like an unnecessary addon, will create more >> > > Since many experienced people are supporting it, I'd think that while it > seems unnecessary to you, it may seem otherwise for them. > > > I would help with the Unicode project if I could. I am not sure why it >> was so tough, but I imagine people infinitely smarter than I am were >> > > Read this (esp. first answer): > http://stackoverflow.com/q/6162484/214196 > > It's about Perl, but gives you an impression why it is so tough. > > > Making JSON style arrays seems stupid to me. When I look at a PHP >> script I expect PHP syntax. Not stolen pieces from a bunch of other >> languages (yes, some of it is that way already, but let's not keep the >> trend going please?) >> > > Why not? If the pieces are good, stealing them is good. It's how progress > happens - you "steal" good pieces and add couple of your own, and hope the > result is good enough that somebody else would want to steal stuff from it > :) > > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ > (408)454-6900 ext. 227 > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >