Re: Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: > >> > Voting on the wiki? Yuck. If you want participation, do it here on the >> > mailinglist and store the record in the wiki. If all "votes" are showing >> >> Voting on ML is messy and means somebody needs to read every message on the >> list and look for votes, however long, tedious and offtopic the discussion >> gets. Voting with, well, voting application is clean, automatic and efficient. >> I don't understand why we should use medium that is unfit for the purpose >> instead of using applications specifically designed for doing what we try to >> do. > > Yes, it's messy on ML. My points where: > - a call to vote is easily drowned out on the ML with all the noise > - editting votes on a wiki can too easily be manipulated (I could just >  change your votes, and there would be no trail). There is a log and we know who did edit what. Basic trust is required anyway and if such tricks happen, really, I do not know what to think about the person doing them (well I do, but that's not the place to say it). A plugin will be installed to ease the process, login, vote. You won't be able to add/edit other votes. About when a vote happens and how to inform the devs, I do not see other solutions than getting the devs to read the discussions on the MLs. If some can't stand the heat, then we can't do much for them anyway, Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org