Re: Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Hannes Magnusson <hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 17:20, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Some of you may have followed the twitter conversation that Pierre and I had at the end >>> of last week;  In my opinion, this dry (or partially wet) run that we had in the last few days of a >>> voting process pointed to several deficiencies that need to be addressed in the RFC release process >>> that need to be addressed before we move on. >> >> Fully agreed and it was the case for the array stuff and a consensus >> is clear here, and in favour of one the proposals. To make the point >> straight. > > Say what? > Do people even know what they were voting for? > I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what is being voted on, so I haven't yet. If you do not understand what has been discussed and can't vote, that's not my or our problem. Nothing I can do will help you here. >>> - The announcement will be done in a way that's easy to flag & follow, e.g. - >>> by [RFC] in the subject line followed by the title of the RFC.  Again, the effective date will >>> start from the time this email is sent to the list, not any other time. >> >> Afaict, it is the case already. > > Definitely not. > There is so much discussion about the array stuff now that I have no > idea what is being voted on.. People started counting votes before the > discussion even began. Please, and I mean it, stop to state wrong and misleading information. There is a page where people votes and have changed their votes, https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shortsyntaxforarrays/vote. There is a clear and obvious consensus, like or not. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org