Re: who can vote

Ronald, Very well said. Thanks for the clarification. Anthony On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ronald Chmara <ronabop@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Anthony Ferrara <ircmaxell@gmail.com> wrote: >>> However, and it is what we approved, OSS project leads have a voice, >>> today and here. And they are not random people, they know sometimes >>> much better than us what should be added to the core (be language, or >>> functions in an extension like spl). >> Well, I would like to make a point here.  Right now, and the >> discussion here is that people who contribute to the core and OSS >> project leads get a say in the language.  What would happen if Google >> chose to use PHP instead of Python.  Would they get a voice?  Should >> they get a voice? (even if it's just a single vote)...?  What about >> professional lead/senior developers who use and develop large and high >> traffic sites off the language?  What about the sysadmins and/or OS >> package maintainers who implement and maintain the language for mass >> adoption?  What about the individual hosts that contribute so much to >> the traction and adoption of PHP as a whole?  Do any of them get a >> say? > > All of these people do have a voice, and some weight, what they do not > have is *equal* weight, or an *equal* vote (if any vote at all). > > Once a php contributor has become familiar with the different players, > and who, and what, they represent, they can selectively evaluate > individual arguments based on their weight. Without naming (outing?) > specific user names, I can say that no less than three of the top ten > websites (on the planet) have voices, and representation, in the > various arguments and discussions here. The largest install bases of > the most popular PHP applications also carry weight here. Same with > frameworks, cross-compilers, etc. > > There is also the weight, and arguments, of users who have hundreds, > or even just one (with low traffic), website/project based on php... > but their arguments are often far outweighed by the arguments of those > who represent the needs of thousands, or millions, of websites and > users. > > -Ronabop >