Re: [RFC] New .phpp File Type for Pure-Code PHP Scripts

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:37 PM, David Muir <davidkmuir@gmail.com> wrote: > On 13/04/12 15:13, Kris Craig wrote: > > Again, the controller should NOT be a .phpp file. Likewise, your model > > should NOT be hooking directly to the view. The controller hooks to the > > model. The controller then sanitizes that and returns it to the view. > > Alternatively, if you're not conforming to a pure MVC standard, the > > controller can also hook to a regular .php file in the model and pass the > > data to that. Either way, it all passes through the controller. The > model > > and view should never be interacting directly. MVC or not, that's just > bad > > architecture and there are zero advantages to using such an ad hoc > approach. > > > > If a developer insists on using such a broken model, however, they're > more > > MVC is a broken model/bad architecture? > Arrooo? Not sure where you got *that* from, as it's basically the exact opposite of what I said.... > > > than welcome to! That's what people love (and hate) about PHP. It's > > flexible. They just won't be able to use a .phpp file upstream from > that, > > as it is by its very nature inherently incompatible with such a broken > > model. The only way to force it to be compatible would be to make the > > .phpp file essentially meaningless. > > > > So if you're writing good code structure, a .phpp file will help you make > > it even better. If you're writing bad architecture, then just keep doing > > what you're already doing and don't worry about using a .phpp file! This > > will in no way stop you from being able to do what you can already do in > > PHP. You're just insisting on wanting to use a pure code file for > > something that it's not intended to be used for. Just like having object > > orientation added in PHP 5 didn't stop you from writing procedural code > if > > you want to, introducing this in PHP 6 won't stop you from writing > > disorganized code if you still want to. What this will do is provide a > > valuable option for people who do feel that writing clean, > role-segregated > > code is important. > > So basically, the only parts that might be ok to write as .phpp are some > model and utility classes? > Essentially, yes. Despite your implication, often times these components make up the vast majority of a modern PHP application. > > David > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >