Re: ZTS - why are you using it?
| From: | Johannes Schlüter | Date: | Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:01:20 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: ZTS - why are you using it? | ||
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On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 12:49 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote:
> > That is true. Many modern compilers and environments provide better
> > support for thread local storages ....
>
> Exactly, or more exactly CRTs (libc, crt and the likes)>
That's what I called "environment" - some of these things depend on
kernels, some on libraries, ... anyway - irrelevant terminology :-p
> > What I see is that TSRM brings a lot of complexity and introduces risk
> > of bugs in there as many developers don't think about. Most of us are
> > focused on the nice and simple world of single-threaded computing. And I
> > assume that we can still find quite some threading bugs when going on a
> > hunt for them ... so besides of pure executable performance there is
> > also the cost of developer power for (proper) maintenance ...
>
> The amount of bugs is rather low. We do test in TS and TS on a daily
> basis. The last extension causing more critical issues was mysql, we
> have discussed these bugs for a long time.
There were mysqli threading bugs, the last one of those actually had
been engine bugs which affected other extensions, too. See i.e.
http://news.php.net/php.internals/59353
Such bugs identified a year after the release of 5.4 gives me quite a
good indication of the little actual testing being done overall.
johannes