Re: Re: 64bit and phpng, votes and plans

From: Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 23:02:49 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: 64bit and phpng, votes and plans
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Hello Yasuo, I know a lot of companies that switched (or plan to switch) to 5.5 only because of better performance. Regards, Thomas Yasuo Ohgaki wrote on 21.05.2014 00:35: > Hi Stas, > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>wrote: > >> > 64bit int if int is 64bit. I prefer consistency, so array int key is >> better >> > to support >> > 64bit int key. IMHO. >> >> Given that 99.9999% of PHP users will never need it, but 100% of PHP >> users will pay in performance for each size increase, we need to be >> careful here. "Consistency" is not more magic word than "security". >> >> > Similar argument applies to string also. It would be WTF, when users try >> to >> > access string offset over 32bit values. Data dealt with PHP is getting >> > larger >> > and larger. It would be an issue sooner or later. >> >> Not likely, unless somehow PHP becomes language of choice for processing >> big data. Which I don't see exactly happening. But if it ever happens, >> we can deal with it then. > > > I think many people don't like PHP and/or switching to other languages are > concerned > about consistency as language. Users will just switch tool, so these would > be issues. > We just loose users(I mean we loose developers). > > I'm really concerned about performance as much as security/consistency like > you. > However, average web developers are not. Most developers prefer large and > slow > web app frameworks. This is the reality. I think we must face our > users(developers). > > Regards, > > -- > Yasuo Ohgaki > yohgaki@ohgaki.net >

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