Re: about the latest frontpage entry

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Michael Wallner <mike@php.net> wrote: > On 28 May 2014 10:29, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com > >wrote: > > > >> Hi! > >> > >> > Would like to know what do you guys think about the best step, I see > the > >> > following possible options: > >> > >> I wonder why I didn't see any discussion about it here. Did I miss it? > >> If not, it would be a good idea next time to announce such things > >> upfront and solicit feedback. Of course, usually php.net news do not > >> require that, but usually they also are much more routine than > >> announcing a big rewrite of the engine in progress. > >> > > > > there were no previous discussion on the list about it, it was a short > > discussion on irc (#php.pecl), but originally it was meant to be a > personal > > blogpost, so there is a chance that not every participant understood that > > it would end up on the frontpage. > > I agree that statements like this should be written more carefully and > > making sure that it comforms with the opinion of the majority of the > people > > behind the project. > > It should be removed if nobody is able to reword it in an objective > and professional style. > I'd really refrain from using words or phrases like "kittens", > "necessitated the birth", "collaboration it is inspiring" and > "grounded, honest and open" -- but maybe it's just the aggregation of > all of it. > > -- > Regards, > Mike > If it is to be rewritten, I think it would be best to brainstorm and agree here what specific points it should cover and what stuff from the original should specifically be left-out. Then a professionally worded post could be drafted that covers those points. I'd be happy to volunteer to take that part on. I do agree with everything Pierre said about it. However, given that it's already been widely disseminated, I don't think simply removing it is any longer an option. That bridge has already been burned behind us, in my opinion. Instead, I propose that we remove it and replace it with one that covers the following points (this is just a start; please feel free to add/remove points): - Brief summary of phpng and its goals. - Current status of the project (perhaps with emphasis on the fact that it is very early stage and doesn't reflect any current change to PHP?). - Credit to the initial authors. - Explanation of why the original post was removed. Other possible points to include would be an explanation of the JIT stuff and a link to an archvie of the original post for transparency, though I'd be interested to know what everyone else thinks about including those. As for stuff not to include, I think Mike already summed it up pretty well. Editorial language (i.e. opinion), melodramatic hyperbole, and sardonic quips about kittens should definitely be left out of any official announcement. Thoughts? --Kris