Re: Re: about the latest frontpage entry
| From: | Joe Watkins | Date: | Thu, 29 May 2014 09:19:46 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Re: about the latest frontpage entry | ||
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Zeev,
> While you’re at it, consider apologizing for your unacceptable choice of
words.
I'm sorry that you find my words unacceptable.
I've already said I was wrong to act on the little consensus I had, but I
did actually have one, the wrong kind of consensus ... sorry.
I didn't remove the post myself because I was trying to get something
started, I fail at interacting with internals so I don't normally try and
let other people try to sort it, but I was still involved, all day long
yesterday.
I was trying to get something started, and seemed to have appropriate
permission; it was the approved way of getting done what I wanted to get
done, by someone in control of these things, on a team that usually acts
pretty independently, that's what I genuinely thought ... I was doing
everything I was meant to be doing.
It's not reasonable to completely ignore my intentions, what I thought was
happening, what I was told to do ... completely not fair.
If we could stop arguing, that'd be great, I still want a blog, can we talk
about how to get that actually started in a sensible way ??
Cheers
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
> Zeev, it's cowardly to say "I don't know who it was" or "it
> doesn't matter
> who it was", you can read my name on the commit, and know full well who it
> was, if you have something to say, say it.
>
> Joe,
>
>
>
> I think you just derailed this conversation in a manner that I’m surprised
> so many people answered you and didn’t point out that kind of talk is
> unacceptable.
>
>
>
> Until this email, I did not know nor did I care who did this. Of course I
> could come up with that name if I wanted to, but that would imply it
> mattered, and it doesn’t. What I cared about is the undoing the deed and
> preventing it from happening again, not playing a blame game.
>
>
>
> What I do have to say to you is the same thing I mistakenly said to the
> wrong person yesterday:
>
>
>
> *“I'm really not sure why you're still fighting this. If I were in your
> shoes I'd admit messing up, apologize, and quickly remove this post. And
> I'm not flaming or bashing anybody, we're all humans and we all make
> mistakes.”*
>
>
>
> While you’re at it, consider apologizing for your unacceptable choice of
> words.
>
>
> Zeev
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