Re: [RFC] PHP 5.7

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote: > > as you mentioned distros lock in to a specific micro version, so if we > introduce this deprecated messages in random micro version, we make it less > likely for the users to stumble upon those deprecated messages and it will > be also harder for us to communicate the upgrade path: > > compare: > > okay, you only have to install PHP 5.7 check out the deprecated messages > in your error logs, fix those and you are ready to upgrade to 7.0 > > vs > > okay, so install 5.6, but make sure that it is >= 5.6.x, except for distro > Z, because they bumped the version but only backported the security fixes > but did not include the last deprecated message and if you fixed those > deprecated messages from your error log, you are ready to upgrade to 7.0. > > > > [Zeev] Distros don’t bump the version number when they backport patches > from newer versions. It stays the same, which is why I don’t think there’s > any difference between the two as far as communications is concerned. It’s > really ‘Upgrade to 5.7’ vs. ‘Upgrade to 5.6.12 or later’ – both messages by > the way irrelevant to distro users (which have little or no control over > the version of PHP they’re using, unless they break away from the standard > distro PHP). The people we really talk about are the people they build > their own or otherwise obtain non-standard-distro binaries. For them, I do > believe a jump to 5.7.x will be psychologically bigger than a hop to a > newer 5.6.x version. > > > my point was that it is easier to say that you can use whatever 5.7 release to make sure you are fine to upgrade to 7.0 versus depending on a specific 5.6 micro version. but you are right that most distros don't bump the upstream version but suffix it with their own revision number, and bump that when backporting bug/security fixes. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu