Re: [RFC] PHP 5.7

On Dec 17, 2014 4:19 AM, "Andrea Faulds" <ajf@ajf.me> wrote: > > Hey Florian, > > > On 16 Dec 2014, at 19:55, Florian Margaine <florian@margaine.com> wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > I think having a minor PHP version for the only sake of adding E_DEPRECATED > > is kind of pointless to be honest. Historically, PHP (or other languages > > for the matter, I'm thinking of python) minor versions have brought new > > features. Adding notices is not a reason for a new version imho. > > > > If what we want are notices, and helping people to migrate to PHP 7, then > > we can create tools for this. For example, python made a tool to help with > > the transition of python 2 to python 3. Go did the same for 0.x to 1.0, if > > my memory serves right. The point of new versions is to include new > > features or bug fixes for the language, static analysis can be done with > > external tools. > > > > The fact that we'll have to maintain one more version is also not something > > to be taken lightly, especially when I see examples of how things progress > > in php-src. (I'm thinking about the recent contributor who gave up.) > > > > Now, if the reason people want PHP 5.7 is to extend PHP 5 lifetime, then > > it's another matter, and the lifetime of existing versions could be > > extended. > > > > Just my $0.02. > > > > Cheers, > > Florian Margaine > > Hmm, actually, a 2to3-esque tool and a formal extension of 5.6's support by a year sounds like a better solution. If others agree, I might withdraw this RFC. > > Thanks! Please do not. It can be updated but discarding a rfc every time you see a slight opposition is not good. Also an extension won't have the same impact and spread than a new php release.