RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [INFO] Basic Scalar Types
| From: | Zeev Suraski | Date: | Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:07:08 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [INFO] Basic Scalar Types | ||
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pádraic Brady [mailto:padraic.brady@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 9:00 PM
> To: Zeev Suraski
> Cc: Bob Weinand; PHP Internals
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [INFO] Basic Scalar Types
>
> On 15 March 2015 at 16:55, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
> > Bob,
> >
> > Thanks for the update. This time, though, although I completely
> > respect your decision not to put your RFC into a vote unless the Dual
> > STH mode fails, I'd like to either (with your permission) take over
> > the RFC or propose my own copy and move it to voting as soon as
> > allowed. This, under a commitment that if I see that Basic STH is
> > failing to garner a clear majority, I'll retract it and move to
> > support the Dual STH RFC instead for the sake of unity.
>
> No one individual has the right to break the existing rules around voting..
> There has been more than sufficient time to date to rewrite the voting
> rules,
> debate voting rights, extend PHP7's deadline, or propose the basic RFC so
> described. A vote in contravention of the voting rules at the last
> possible
> minute cannot, by definition, be recognised at this time. I wouldn't even
> vote
> since it might lend it an air of ill deserved legitimacy, forgetting for a
> moment whether a few PEAR contributions make me any more deserving of
> a vote than others.
No rule is being broken.
The PHP 7 timeline RFC (wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline) states the following:
Line up any remaining RFCs that target PHP 7.0. | Now - Mar 15 (4+
additional months)
As Bob pointed out, what 'Line up' means - whether it means vote ends, vote
begins, or discussion begins - is completely open to interpretation. I
don't remember what I meant when I wrote it, but arguably, 'line up' is a
lot closer to 'start discussing' than 'finish voting', and as is typically
the case when something is unclear, the most lax interpretation is
acceptable.
Zeev