AW: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Matthew Leverton [mailto:leverton@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. März 2015 20:46 > An: Anthony Ferrara > Cc: internals@lists.php.net > Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Anthony Ferrara <ircmaxell@gmail.com> wrote: > > All, > > > > I ran some numbers on the current votes of the dual-mode vote right > > now. There were a number of voters that I didn't recognize. So I > > decided to pull some stats. > > > ... > > > > Something that I think we need to discuss as a group. > > > > So consider that discussion open. > > > I think this is likely because the votes are made public during voting phase. To me, that is a > bad thing. It makes for an ugly > voting period. > That sort of politics should happen during the discussion phase. > > So I don't think there's anything wrong with "first time voters" > voting No en masse here. I just think there's a major problem in having a real-time count > of votes during the voting period. > > If votes weren't made public during the voting, then more people would vote on more > issues... avoiding this situation > where people come from "nowhere" to cast a vote as word gets out on blogs that > something terrible is about to happen. > > In short, I think the real-time public vote results causes a few problems: > > 1) Bandwagon voting, or "vote for the winner" mindset. The early wave of voters can > impact the results by discouraging > people from voting. > (Look at Zeev's RFC vote count vs Anthony's.) > 2) The losing side feverishly drumming up votes, often with scare tactics - i.e., vocal > minority. (It's much easier for the "No" > side of any vote to appeal to this.) > 3) In rare cases, Gaming the system - closing the vote at the exact time that benefits the > owner of the RFC. > > So I don't think there's anything sinister here. It's just the natural result of > the voting rules. > > -- > Matthew Leverton > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: > http://www.php.net/unsub.php I agree with Matthew here, the voting process should be revised and votes should not be public -- for anyone -- until closed. I mean, every sane democratic country is using the secret ballot method, why shouldn't PHP use it? But I am not a voter, so just my 2 cents Cheers, Robert