Re: Voting irregularities

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote: > Pierre Joye wrote: > >> However, as of today, you are the blocking point when it comes to >> improve the wiki RFCs, registration and voting areas.And this is >> really becoming a problem. I am not talking about irregularities and >> the likes and I agree that it may not be fair to start bitching about >> one or another vote, especially for some 1st time voters but oldest >> contributors. While I do see an issue with inactive developers >> suddenly jumping in but not using or contributing to PHP in any form >> since quite long. But this is a totally different issues and I really >> have no idea how to solve that, I do not see it as a big issue either >> so... >> >> However, the RFCs have been abused in many possible ways where I >> thought common sense will make people act fairly and correctly. I was >> wrong. Having simple technical measures to ensure fairness in >> discussions, voting and end of voting periods will prevent some of >> these abuses to happen again. It is possible to achieve that without >> going down a more drastic road (anonymous votes or other more deep >> changes) but will make things work the same way for everyone. >> >> [...] >> >> Now, to be able to actually implement the little technical measure to >> ensure that everyone follows the same rules, I ask you one more time >> to provide the data of the current wiki so patches, changes etc can be >> implemented in a safer way. You know where to reach me to provide it. >> Thanks for your cooperation. > > Whatever you want to improve, please consider that the PHP wiki is > driven by DokuWiki which needs to get updated from time to time (lately > there have been two updates every year[1]; this is not accounting any > necessary updates to DokuWiki plugins). These updates seem to be > painful already, due to the required customizations. It would be > helpful if further as well as existing customizations could be moved to > custom DokuWiki plugins as far as feasible. I know, we setup it together with Lukas back then. And yes, most of the changes should be plugins not patching the cores, the latter is a maintenance nightmare. > Furthermore, please note that README.CONFIGURE[2] states: > > | There is no data in cvs. The data is only available on the server and > | backup many times daily. If you need sample data using the production > | documents, please contact the php webmaster list. I know that too and asked that for more than a year now. Hence my rather undiplomatic mail. > To avoid potential misunderstandings: I'm rather new to php.net, and I > don't like to get involved into apparently long standing contentions. > Instead I'd prefer to help to maintain the technical base (i.e. the > software -- I'm no sys admin) of the wiki for the sake of PHP. I very much appreciate your efforts and contributions, much much welcome! :) Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org