Re: About declare(strict_types = 1)

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Xinchen Hui wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 16, 2015 4:29 PM, "Xinchen Hui" <laruence@php.net> wrote: > >> > >> that means, I need to add a lots of (int) while I try to call a > >> function in a library which is not written by myself. > >> > >> is that right? > > > > You got the answer but one thing bothers me a lot right now. > > > > How did you vote against this rfc while missing the core point of it (after > > actually having a strict mode)? > as I said, > " > acutaly, I believe in most applications, they will still keep this off.. > > so why we introduce such thing? > " > I don't like strict_types at all.. To be frank, I don't think "I don't like this" is a terribly good reason to vote against (or for something). What is important is how many people would actually benefit from a feature, without it causing issues for others. I am certainly no fan of the "declare" *syntax*, but I do know, from talking at conferences that many many developers would like to see scalar type hints in some way — both weak (mode 1 of the STHv5 RFC), and strict (mode 2). It even caters for people that don't want to use them at all, as they can simply not use them. I also know, that without a dual mode, it seems very unlikely for scalar type hints to make it into PHP 7, and I don't think that is what users want. As this is our *best* bet, I can only vote "yes". cheers, Derick