Re: About declare(strict_types = 1)

Hey: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Xinchen Hui wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > On Mar 16, 2015 4:29 PM, "Xinchen Hui" <laruence@php.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> that means, I need to add a lots of (int) while I try to call a >> >> function in a library which is not written by myself. >> >> >> >> is that right? >> > >> > You got the answer but one thing bothers me a lot right now. >> > >> > How did you vote against this rfc while missing the core point of it (after >> > actually having a strict mode)? > >> as I said, >> " >> acutaly, I believe in most applications, they will still keep this off... >> >> so why we introduce such thing? >> " >> I don't like strict_types at all.. > > To be frank, I don't think "I don't like this" is a terribly good reason > to vote against (or for something). What is important is how many people > would actually benefit from a feature, without it causing issues for > others. I am certainly no fan of the "declare" *syntax*, but I do know, > from talking at conferences that many many developers would like to see > scalar type hints in some way — both weak (mode 1 of the STHv5 RFC), and I think they just want a weak type hintings(PHP is a weak type language).. not strict types. especially not a dual mode, switch on/off by a declare line.. it looks so ugly to me.. > strict (mode 2). It even caters for people that don't want to use them > at all, as they can simply not use them. I also know, that without a > dual mode, it seems very unlikely for scalar type hints to make it > into PHP 7, and I don't think that is what users want. As this is our > *best* bet, I can only vote "yes". I understand your choice, but for me, as a six year PHP user. I can see how strict types can benifit me.. the only usage I can image is, turn on it in developer env to clean types passing, and turn off in produce env for safety(in case I forget to cast some types from $_GET $_POST). which is definitlely can be done by a extension, or hook.. thanks > > cheers, > Derick -- Xinchen Hui @Laruence http://www.laruence.com/