Re: What's our official stance on small self-contained additions in a micro version

Hi, Am 01.04.2015 um 21:43 schrieb Stanislav Malyshev: >> That is right and I think that is the reality we have to face: most >> users use distro versions. They get a new version when they need to >> upgrade their distro every few years. > > I'm not sure where you got this statistics from, but as I said, it is > very easy to make .rpm or .deb with source version from php.net of the > same minor. I've seen it done many times. It's next to impossible to > make the same with different major, and nobody would do it for obvious > stability concerns. I think the approach of "you have to wait several > years for any tiny change" is terrible and detrimental for PHP > development, however easy it makes the life of folks in Debian, etc. I vaguely remembered the usage statistics that Anthony assembled in December and had other numbers in my head. (see http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2014/12/php-install-statistics.html) 5.5.12 (Ubuntu 14.10): 0.16% 5.5.9 (Ubuntu 14.04): 1.81% 5.4.16 (CentOS 7.0): 0.42% 5.4.4 (Debian Wheezy): 2.14% 5.3.10 (Ubuntu 12.04): 4.13% 5.3.3 (Debian Squeeze, Centos 6.6): 10.37% 5.3.2 (Ubuntu 10.04): 1.06% 5.1.6 (CentOS 5.11): 1.14% ============================== Debian, Ubuntu and CentOS: ~21,23% (I assume here like Anthony that the installs matching a distribution specific version always come from that distribution). So I have to step a little back from my previous statement, only about 1/5th of the installs seem to use distribution installs. But there are a lot of used versions in between. Why they don't upgrade I don't know, but if the upgrade would be a no-brainer without any risk for incompatibility, probably more would upgrade, but that is just speculation. >> No, I don't say ban non-security bugfixes. But I say don't add new >> methods/functionality that should go in the next feature release. > > I'm fine with adding only those that should go into the current one, > namely small self-contained additions :) Just as we agreed on long ago. An addition and a bug fix are different things. Greets Dennis