Re: [VOTE] Exceptions in the engine

From: Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:15:03 +0000
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Exceptions in the engine
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On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > >> The key is that I feel like the voting body wasn't well informed. It's >> not because I lost; rather it's because I feel like the people voting >> yes didn't actually understand the issues at play. There is a big >> difference between that and revoting after a vote didn't go my way as >> an effort to try again. > > If you have a specific proposal how to make the votes more informed, you > are most welcome. Protesting the result of a specific vote, post-vote, > on the grounds that "these guys don't know what they're talking about" - > does not seem very useful to me. Primarily because this argument can be > applied to virtually any vote and there's no way to arrive at a > practical conclusion distinguishing valid vote from invalid based on it > - anybody can claim that if his side lost then the other side didn't > know what they're talking about. If is a possibility that this may > indeed happen - our current voting system has very few safeguards > against uninformed voting and all you need to vote is a committer > access, which doesn't make one an expert in everything. But protesting > result of a particular vote is not the way to fix the problem, if it exists. The difference is that as time goes on and I've written code for PHP 7 I was hit by this issue. It's an even bigger issue than even I realized during voting. How many people who voted on that issue have played with the code from both scenarios? Few, I can't guarantee it but given the historical precedent it's almost certainly true.

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