Re: PHP 5.6 life cycle

I agree with Scott. With each extension we only seem to be enabling people with bad habits. 8 months is almost a full year and more than enough time. On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Scott Arciszewski <scott@paragonie.com> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > Giving everyone until the end of 2017 to update their servers is more > > > than sufficient. > > > > Sufficient for what? It is a hard fact that people still run 5.3 > > version. In fact, 2/3 of sites run EOLed versions. You can always say > > they have only themselves to blame, but then I'm not sure what > > "sufficient" means. Unless adoption patterns change drastically, by the > > end of 2017 most people will not be running PHP 7. That's not something > > we can realistically change (unless you have some way of changing those > > patterns we didn't try yet or they change by themselves somehow). Thus, > > our choice lies only in whether we support this majority of users in > > some way > > ​​ > > or say "you are on your own now, we don't care about you anymore". > > -- > > Stas Malyshev > > smalyshev@gmail.com > > > > > ​We should do everything we can to instill a culture of keeping stuff up to > date. Just because people are going to shoot themselves in the foot doesn't > mean we should supply them with additional ammo. > > If 2/3 of sites still run EOLed versions of PHP, all adding a long-term > support version is going to do is encourage habits of inertia. "Well, 5.6 > was supported until 2020, why can't 7.0.0 be supported until past 2019? > This isn't fair." > > > > ​ > or say "you are on your own now, we don't care about you anymore". > > Yes, given the lack of a sensible alternative, I think we need to do this.. > And then the community needs to, collectively, invest serious effort in > finding a remotely exploitable vulnerability in any/all EOL'd versions of > PHP to give a strong incentive to stop running 5.2.x and 5.3.x in 2016. > > Scott Arciszewski > Chief Development Officer > Paragon Initiative Enterprises <https://paragonie.com/> > ​ >