Re: Re: [RFC] [Re-proposed] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi Stanislav, I have made a small change to The Pragmatist Code of conduct from 'behave like an adult to 'you are expected to show others civility and courtesy.'

This one basically can be TLDRed as "behave as an adult". Which is nice if we were to agree what it means, but that is in no way automatic, thus I am afraid it is not enough :) Assuming good faith is a nice touch though, I like it.

That should be cleared, and assuming good faith should be part of the CoC no matter which one we choose in the end, having people in the project so many diverse background and cultures. Here is the thing, it might not be enough but is at least what I consider a minimal foundation; the way the conversation has approach the problem so far is trying to elaborate on every single scenario and how to penalize the bad actors on those scenarios. But if we are to agree into a first version of the PHP CoC then we should start with minimum requirements the MVP if you like :D. Asking people to assume good faith and be civil is in my opinion all we can and should ask in my opinion; yes there will be misunderstandings, yes there will be bad actors. But when the time comes those scenarios can be deal with. This at it's core is what really bothers me about the Contributors Covenant and the whole narrative behind that assumes to worst in people; that in my opinion is fundamentally wrong. Assume the best in people and you will pleasantly surprised, assume the worst of them and all your fears will be validated. Kind Regards, Allan MacGregor Stanislav Malyshev wrote:

Hi!

Now, if we are still adamant on coming up with a CoC first I would like to put forward the following 3 documents as alternatives for the Contributor Covenant: [A contribution policy for open source that works](https://medium.com/@jmaynard/a-contribution-policy-for-open-source-that-works-bfc4600c9d83#.d53666v7u)

This one deals with code contributions, but our discussion is wider. In fact, we never, as far as I could remember, had code contribution which was per se controversial. We did have ones that were controversial in that we disagreed on whether or not that code is doing what we actually want to do, but the code usually is not a problem.

[The Code of Merit](https://github.com/rosarior/Code-of-Merit/blob/master/CODE_OF_MERIT.md)

I don't particularly like this approach, it sounds too defensive.

[The Pragmatists Code of Conduct](https://github.com/amacgregor/Pragmatists-Code-of-Conduct/blob/master/Prag-Code-of-Conduct.md)

This one basically can be TLDRed as "behave as an adult". Which is nice if we were to agree what it means, but that is in no way automatic, thus I am afraid it is not enough :) Assuming good faith is a nice touch though, I like it.

-- Allan MacGregor coderoncode.com <http://coderoncode.com>