Re: [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle

> On 4 Sep 2016, at 6:48 PM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 03/09/16 22:53, Rowan Collins wrote: >> I guess we could have a philosophical debate about what it means for >> something to be "the standard" rather than "a standard", and whether >> PEAR was "more official" than PHP-FIG, and just who gets to decide what >> PHP is. >> >> But once again, I find myself being drawn into an off-topic debate about >> coding styles, and I would like to apologise to Davey as it has nothing >> to do with his RFC. > > I think that what is missing is a discussion on just where one should > start these days in terms of a basic framework for beginners. That there > are so many competing "standards" that in many cases do not play well > together is MY problem. That my key libraries ARE moving to a different > style and have different ways of loading is a pull one way, and my web > side interface has other loaders handling javascript and css packages > which adds to the complexity. > > But perhaps we don't bother about the novice PHP user and just assume > they are all simply using third party frameworks already so all that > needs to be looked at is improving the library/framework developer > experience. It would be nice to get back to some BASIC functionality > such as loading a form, validating it's content, and string the results > without having a dozen ways of filtering the inputs and a dozen ways of > accessing the database. > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > How many competing autoloading standards are there? PSR-0 (PEAR, Zend, etc) and PSR-4 are the two main ones I know of. Symphony used to have their own style back in the day, but swapped to PSR-0 with Symfony2 8? years ago. I suppose you could also work with just a class map, which I've seen some libs use (eg TCPDF)... That said if you've got some other style, just register a loader for it and get on with it. Sounds to me like your problem isn't with Composer per se, but autoloading in general? Cheers, David