Re: [RFC][Vote] Typed Properties

From: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 16:01:13 +0000
Subject: Re: [RFC][Vote] Typed Properties
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Thanks for your work on this Bob, it is *very* appreciated! > On 19 Nov 2016, at 21:51, Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hey there, > > I’ve actually been working on an implementation covering also typed references, so that > it’s possible to create references to a typed property, which had been a major concern back then. > > See also: > https://github.com/bwoebi/php-src/compare/typed_properties...bwoebi:typed_ref_properties > > I’m planning to revive the RFC soon. > > Bob > >> Am 19.11.2016 um 15:04 schrieb Rasmus Schultz <rasmus@mindplay.dk>: >> >> Heh, so, this week, a coworker of mine started using PHP 7, and he calls me >> over, and he's like, "I don't get it, I had heard PHP 7 was supposed to >> have type-hints now - it worked for return-types, but what am I doing >> wrong, I can't seem to get this to work for properties?" >> >> He actually had something like "public int $id" in a class-declaration on >> his screen, and was genuinely confused - he simply assumed that would work, >> since it worked for return-types. When I explained to him that, no, PHP 7 >> still isn't type-hinted, it's *more* type-hinted, but still not fully >> type-hinted, he gave me the lemon-face. You know the one. Like you just ate >> a lemon. Yeah. >> >> I don't think there's a developer on my team and this point who isn't at >> least checking out other languages in frustration with the lack of features >> and consistency. I'm starting to feel like we're at risk of some of our >> best, young developers walking, if somebody offers them a chance to work >> with more "exciting" languages like Scala, Go, Dart, etc. - I'm not trying >> to say that proper type-hinting is the whole answer, but I believe it would >> go a long way towards consistency and the sense of completeness you get >> from some of the competing languages, where these features were engineered >> into the language from the design stage, rather than being added on a bit >> at a time. >> >> Any plans to revive this RFC or is it officially dead? >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Pascal MARTIN, AFUP < >> mailing@pascal-martin.fr> wrote: >> >>> Le 10/06/2016 12:38, Joe Watkins a écrit : >>> >>>> The vote for typed properties has been restarted. >>>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We, at AFUP, often tend to be on the "more static / strict types" side of >>> things, and it remains this way for this RFC -- which means we would be +1 >>> for typed properties. >>> >>> A few noted this was not quite "the PHP way", while the majority felt this >>> was in line with previous changes (like scalar type declarations, nullable >>> types...) and could prove interesting for complex applications. >>> >>> Judging from where the votes are right now, I'm guessing this RFC will not >>> pass, but, in any case, thanks for your work on this! >>> >>> There are more "yes" than "no", so maybe it will open a path >>> towards >>> something, maybe a bit different, in another future version... >>> >>> -- >>> Pascal MARTIN, AFUP - French UG >>> http://php-internals.afup.org/ > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >

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