RE: PHP Titles

Dear Goba, I am extremely sorry but please believe me Goba, I have not done anything intentionally. I am totally unaware of the problems, which must have been caused, and how did I land up making such a stupid mistake! I totally agree with your concerns but my intention was just to pass on the information to you / webmaster on the reply that you sent to me. Just felt that this extra information could help you and your community members. Yes, I too had just the intention of giving out some extra information about what I thought would be useful to the PHP readers. Please do let me know the procedure to do it. I was totally unaware of the problem I must have caused till I read your mail just now. Do not know how to apologize. Had no intention of just flooding things in the mailing list. Could you please guide me in this, so as not to make such a blunder again, ever? You definitely have been very nice and careful in using your words in spite of me upsetting you in this manner. You are really a nice person. Thank you for letting me know my mistake. Shall not repeat this. Yet, I really would be happy if you could tell me where and to whom am I to address these letters to pass on my information to php.net Believe me Goba, these books by Wrox shall really help the PHP community. Would you like to have a look at one or two titles and review them? I would not mind sending them across to get your views. But first, please forgive me for my mistake :-( With best regards and apologies, --Manjiri -----Original Message----- From: Gabor Hojtsy [mailto:gabor@hojtsy.hu] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:19 PM To: Manjiri Devdhar Cc: webmaster@php.net Subject: Re: PHP Titles Dear Manjiri! I am quite angry because of you know. I don't know how to express my feelings politely, but what you have done is considered to be one of the very worst things somebody can do on a mailing list. This is something very small guys do in elementary school now, as they conquer the world of email. Sending very large attachements while you are specifically asked not to send them is itself a bit annoying. Additionaly to this, doing on a mailing list is something considered the worst act against those reading the list. You must know that we do our work for the PHP group free. Some of us, including me use our home internet connection payed by ourself to connect, download email, test modifications, etc. Now considering the fact that not everybody has broadband (I don't have it because it is not technically available here), what you attached were very big files. On my normal modem connection, it took 10 minutes to download one of your mails. You were so kind, to post your mail to the mailing list and to me personnaly, so I received it twice. 20 minutes. Consider this. Do you wait 20 minutes for anything downloading from the internet? Anybody can say now, that I am fool to have a mailbox without filtering, but as I am a part of an open community, and receive many mails from those I have never met, and never talked to, I would not like to set up filters to drop out any mail. Spams are of course deleted... I would like to advice you to read some netiquette before you get to work and do anything that would influence how we think about Wrox. I like Wrox and it's titles (as well as other publishers). But I do think so that this was something that can change the way I think about your company. I tried to be as polite as possible, I may have not succeded in this, but please consider that I am very embarassed... Goba ----- Original Message ----- From: Manjiri Devdhar <mailto:manjiride@wrox.com> To: Gabor Hojtsy <mailto:gabor@hojtsy.hu> Cc: webmaster@php.net <mailto:webmaster@php.net> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:38 AM Subject: RE: PHP Titles Hi Gabor, Apologize……..here go the attachments. Our title links…. 1. Professional PHP4 XML 1861007213 http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007213.htm 2. Professional PHP4 Multimedia Programming 1861007647 http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007647.htm 3. Beginning PHP4 Databases 1861007825 http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007825.htm 4. Professional PHP4 Web Development Solutions 1861007434 http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007434.htm Please do not hesitate to get back to me for any of your views, suggestions / ideas and I shall be only glad to help you out. Best regards, --Manjiri -----Original Message----- From: Gabor Hojtsy [mailto:gabor@hojtsy.hu] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:54 PM To: Manjiri Devdhar Cc: webmaster@php.net Subject: Re: PHP Titles There is no attachement... Goba [one webmaster@php.net <mailto:webmaster@php.net> ] ----- Original Message ----- From: Manjiri Devdhar <mailto:manjiride@wrox.com> To: Gabor Hojtsy <mailto:gabor@hojtsy.hu> Cc: webmaster@php.net <mailto:webmaster@php.net> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:27 AM Subject: RE: PHP Titles Hi Gabor, Many thanks for the reply. I am attaching herewith the information with sample chapters of the books with link to our site. Hope that helps. Do let me know if you have any concerns. Best regards, --Manjiri -----Original Message----- From: Gabor Hojtsy [ mailto:gabor@hojtsy.hu] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:49 PM To: Manjiri Devdhar; webmaster@php.net <mailto:webmaster@php.net> Subject: Re: PHP Titles Please send us only those information pieces that are available for other books too. See the books page on what we list. The link to your book's detail page will be there to follow to get the sample chapters and other stuff from your site. Goba [one webmaster@php.net <mailto:webmaster@php.net> ] ----- Original Message ----- From: Manjiri Devdhar <mailto:manjiride@wrox.com> To: webmaster@php.net <mailto:webmaster@php.net> Cc: gabor@hojtsy.hu <mailto:gabor@hojtsy.hu> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:55 AM Subject: PHP Titles Hello, I have been trying to get in touch with you for pretty much time. Could you please acknowledge the receipt of my mail? Wonder if it has reached you earlier. I am Manjiri from Wrox Press, Marketing and Communications, taking care of the Open Source titles. While moving through your site at the following url http://www.php.net/books.php?type_lang=PHP_en I saw a lot many PHP titles but all the latest great additions to the PHP shelf from Wrox seem missing. 1. Professional PHP4 XML 1861007213 2. Professional PHP4 Multimedia Programming 1861007647 3. Beginning PHP4 Databases 1861007825 4. Professional PHP4 Web Development Solutions 1861007434 And many more in the making :-) I shall be really glad to see these titles up on your PHP book’s link. On my part, I could send you the Cover image, Table of Contents and Sample chapters of these titles. Do let me know if you have any concerns or suggestions / views regarding the same. With best regards, --Manjiri Manjiri Devdhar Marketing and Communications www.wrox.com <http://www.wrox.com/> -------------------------------------------------------------- Peer Information India Pvt Ltd, Mumbai, India -------------------------------------------------------------- Peer Information India Pvt Ltd, Mumbai, India _____ -------------------------------------------------------------- Peer Information India Pvt Ltd, Mumbai, India