Re: php.net layout with CSS-P

I see absolutely no reason for strict compliance. It needs to work, whether it validates or not is completely irrelevant. On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Davey wrote: > Gabor, > > I have often expressed my wish to re-do the PHP website as valid > XHTML/CSS (without breaking older browsers either!). I have been doing > this stuff generally for about 9 months now and have 10 million hacks up > my sleeves to make IE6 accept standards compliant code. > > I was going to do an extensive example of using XHTML/CSS and then > reveal it in the hopes that I would be allowed to create a CVS branch > and finish the XHTML/CSS version with the aid of the community... > > As you have already gone some way into doing the XHTML (valid > transitional! now lets try strict! :) pretty much valid CSS (just a few > warning that can easily be gotten rid of by adding: "background-color: > transparent;" to each of the selectors with warnings) and Rasmus has > expressed his wish to move in this direction, I would like to openly > offer my help to do exactly this. I have yet to take a look at the PHP > website source (I understand its quite attrocious) but any help I can > give I will do so :) > > - Davey > > Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Following on my previous trys to create a CSS-P version of the PHP.net > > footer, I have gone farther, and done the header too. I was able to test > > it in Mozilla 1.3 [Win and Linux], IE6, Opera 7.11 [Win], Konqueror and > > Galleon. Every browser I tested seems to display the old table based > > design [at the top] and the new CSS-P based design [at the bottom] 99% > > identically. This means a 1-2 pixel difference in positioning at some > > places, not critical. > > > > In the CSS for the new HTML code I needed to use some tricks regarding > > font sizes, as IE does not inherit font sizes properly. Most of the work > > was done to make the layout work with IE (while it was already working > > perfectly in Mozilla and Konqueror). > > > > I expect this to work in Safari, as it uses the khtml rendering engine > > (which is the base of Konqueror too). I was unable to test with older IE > > versions. > > > > I have prepared a framset so you can easily test the two versions. The > > upper one is the current table based layout (with current style sheet). > > The one at the bottom is the new CSS-P based one. > > > > Advantages of this new version include: > > > > - very clean true XHTML code > > - 1Kb less HTML markup then the old code > > - enables us to easily provide a print version style sheet, > > so there won't be a need to download pages again with printer > > friendly HTML generated around them > > > > Given that the CSS will be cached on the users machine, this takes off > > 1Kbtye data of every page request, additionaly using this kind of CSS > > takes of the burden of generating separate pages for print and online > > viewing from the server. > > > > See online: http://goba.hu/phpnet/ > > > > Opinions are welcome! > > > > Goba > > >