#34585 [Bgs->Opn]: php.net causes Firefox to freeze

ID: 34585 User updated by: php at transpect dot com Reported By: php at transpect dot com -Status: Bogus +Status: Open Bug Type: Website problem Operating System: Gentoo Linux PHP Version: Irrelevant New Comment: With respect, it is generally accepted that it is the responsibility of Website authors to maintain compatibility with at least the major browsers. Mozilla Firefox is a major browser (particularly popular among those coding PHP) and the noscript extension is also reasonably common of late (one of the most-used, certainly). The bug, properly analyzed, is probably in the interaction of the site and noscript -- but no other sites of the many I visit are having this problem. So it's something you could avoid by recoding the php.net site. If you don't want to adopt a professional attitude about your site code, that's of course your business. But then, since PHP has become more of a Zend corporate thing, and less of a Rasmus amateur thing, professionalism about Web coding compatibility might be in order. If it were one of my sites, I'd fix it. Sorry for the attitude, but as a longtime PHP coder I'd like to see you guys continue to strive for the highest standards. Previous Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2005-09-22 11:25:36] sniper@php.net It's obviously some bug in the browser, not in the website.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2005-09-21 21:38:55] php at transpect dot com goba, Thanks for checking. The real test might be to try installing the noscript extension in your Firefox, with it defaulting to blocking all sites, and see if Firefox then freezes up on php.net. It's via noscript that I have JavaScript (partially) turned off. Haven't had it freeze up on other sites.... I'll build a more recent Firefox soon and test that against the site, to see if the difference is there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2005-09-21 21:12:12] goba@php.net Our site obviously works with Firefox with or without JavaScript, we have no dependency whatsoever on JavaScript. i have just tried my 1.0.6 (Ubuntu) with and without JavaScript (I use the Web developer toolbar and a dozen other extensions), but I have encountered no problem. Until someone can produce this, we cannot do anything for you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2005-09-21 19:46:07] php at transpect dot com Description: ------------ Using Mozilla Firefox 1.0.5, the page begins to display, but gets to "Connecting to static.php.net" and then freezes. At that point going to another screen, then back to Firefox produces an empty terminal window for Firefox with no contents. This is reproducible; happens every time. I'm connecting with Opera now with no problem. Firefox is using the addblock and noscript plugins ... hmm, wait now I can connect okay with Firefox, as I go to check the noscript setting for it -- which is currently off. So: four times in a row it freezes and I have to kill firefox manually. Now finally it works. Opera worked the first time in the midst of the Firefox crashes. Firefox has always worked with php.net before. And now on a sixth test it freezes up again. Seventh test: Turning on JavaScript as the site loads seems to clear the problem; turning it back off, the browser freezes again, same way. Eighth: Yup, that reproduces. With JavaScript blocked the site freezes the browser. In particular the main page cannot be scrolled -- or anything else, really. Suggestion: No site should ever depend on JavaScript running in the browser, especially not a site supporting a programming language which will often enough be used in contexts with JavaScript disabled for security reasons. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=34585&edit=1