Re: #34585 [Opn->Bgs]: php.net causes Firefox to freeze

goba@php.net wrote: Just my two cents. I've tested the PHP site on the latest beta of Firefox 1.5 and don't experience any issues specified by the user. Regards --jm > ID: 34585 > Updated by: goba@php.net > Reported By: php at transpect dot com >-Status: Open >+Status: Bogus > Bug Type: Website problem > Operating System: Gentoo Linux > PHP Version: Irrelevant > New Comment: > >Once again, please understand: our site works with Firefox. Whatever >buggy desktop stuff you have we cannot help with. Just so that we are >using similar software, I also installed the noscript extension (on top >of the extensions I already have), and just as I anticipated, I >encoutered no problems. If this is hard to beleive, look here for a >screen grab: > > http://xs.to/xs.php?f=Screenshot.png&h=xs47&d=05384 > >Notice that the page is fully loaded and that noscript is in effect. > > >Previous Comments: >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >[2005-09-22 17:21:06] php at transpect dot com > >With respect, it is generally accepted that it is the responsibility of >Website authors to maintain compatibility with at least the major >browsers. Mozilla Firefox is a major browser (particularly popular >among those coding PHP) and the noscript extension is also reasonably >common of late (one of the most-used, certainly). The bug, properly >analyzed, is probably in the interaction of the site and noscript -- >but no other sites of the many I visit are having this problem. So it's >something you could avoid by recoding the php.net site. > >If you don't want to adopt a professional attitude about your site >code, that's of course your business. But then, since PHP has become >more of a Zend corporate thing, and less of a Rasmus amateur thing, >professionalism about Web coding compatibility might be in order. > >If it were one of my sites, I'd fix it. Sorry for the attitude, but as >a longtime PHP coder I'd like to see you guys continue to strive for >the highest standards. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >[2005-09-22 11:25:36] sniper@php.net > >It's obviously some bug in the browser, not in the website.. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >[2005-09-21 21:38:55] php at transpect dot com > >goba, > >Thanks for checking. The real test might be to try installing the >noscript extension in your Firefox, with it defaulting to blocking all >sites, and see if Firefox then freezes up on php.net. It's via noscript >that I have JavaScript (partially) turned off. Haven't had it freeze up >on other sites.... > >I'll build a more recent Firefox soon and test that against the site, >to see if the difference is there. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >[2005-09-21 21:12:12] goba@php.net > >Our site obviously works with Firefox with or without JavaScript, we >have no dependency whatsoever on JavaScript. i have just tried my 1.0.6 >(Ubuntu) with and without JavaScript (I use the Web developer toolbar >and a dozen other extensions), but I have encountered no problem. Until >someone can produce this, we cannot do anything for you. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >[2005-09-21 19:46:07] php at transpect dot com > >Description: >------------ >Using Mozilla Firefox 1.0.5, the page begins to display, but gets to >"Connecting to static.php.net" and then freezes. At that point going to >another screen, then back to Firefox produces an empty terminal window >for Firefox with no contents. This is reproducible; happens every time. >I'm connecting with Opera now with no problem. > >Firefox is using the addblock and noscript plugins ... hmm, wait now I >can connect okay with Firefox, as I go to check the noscript setting >for it -- which is currently off. So: four times in a row it freezes >and I have to kill firefox manually. Now finally it works. Opera worked >the first time in the midst of the Firefox crashes. Firefox has always >worked with php.net before. And now on a sixth test it freezes up >again. Seventh test: Turning on JavaScript as the site loads seems to >clear the problem; turning it back off, the browser freezes again, same >way. Eighth: Yup, that reproduces. With JavaScript blocked the site >freezes the browser. In particular the main page cannot be scrolled -- >or anything else, really. > >Suggestion: No site should ever depend on JavaScript running in the >browser, especially not a site supporting a programming language which >will often enough be used in contexts with JavaScript disabled for >security reasons. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- Jacques Marneweck http://www.powertrip.co.za/blog/