Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:

We'd support this. From my last set discussions internally, we'd need the spec to be under CLA.

Ok, thats a problem. I do not see much of a chance to convince anyone on php.net to do this.

What other extensions have been written using an external (to PHP) specification?

But lets say its not under a CLA, how is this different than you guys using the ZE2 API? Is it just because Oracle considers anything closer to RDBMS to be more of a risk? If we say that we do not expect much direct collaboration at all from any of the concerned vendors, is that still an issue?

Using is different to contributing to a specification. And collaborating is different to working individually. (And the more that our legal team understood about PHP, the less they liked that management had already approved me contributing...) I think it's an issue for PHP if not all the data access providers can contribute.

From my point of view, the interesting crux of the PDO discussions is that the development and release _process_ is the key factor in determining what risk (and hence need for CLA's and licenses) exists.

Right. The base line is that anyone can setup a PEAR channel and distribute PHP or C code on their own infrastructure. We are looking if there is a way to more closely integrate you guys into the php.net infrastructure.

Installation of PHP continues to be the number one barrier to entry issue I see, despite the maturation of various *AMP distros, Zend Core, and other prebuilt stacks. Reducing the barrier is the key reason to have PDO and its drivers integrated with PHP to a high level. It also makes sense to have a central place for documentation and bug reports. Chris -- Christopher Jones, Oracle Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630 Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Free PHP Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad