Re: Re: [pear-webmaster] Re: [PEAR-CORE] Re: cvs: pearweb /public_html/trackback trackback-admin.php
| From: | Pierre Joye | Date: | Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:24 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Re: [pear-webmaster] Re: [PEAR-CORE] Re: cvs: pearweb /public_html/trackback trackback-admin.php | ||
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On 10/25/05, Greg Beaver <greg@chiaraquartet.net> wrote:
> Pierre: all I'm asking is that every developer test code prior to
> committing it. I think a better procedure in the case of not enough
> time would be to capture the output of "cvs diff -u" and send it to the
> mailing list for another with karma to commit. I would welcome
> constructive coding from you or anyone else in the future, always have.
Nobody has a working pearweb but us (you, martin and me) locally.
Helgi installed it again recently to help in this direction, quick
fixes if a commit broke something or is wrong.
> Let's be honest: nobody is claiming to be an angel. I have committed
> code without testing in the past, I think it is fair to say that all (or
> most) of us have done so. The thing is, it has never turned out to be a
> good idea in a live website, and I would suggest we discourage it. In
> fact, *all* changes to the live website need to be testable, just as
> they are for the PEAR package. This includes PHP version,
> register_globals, PEAR version on the website, etc.
Again, it seems you do not know really why I have had to switch it to
off. Ask me privatelly if you have any interest.
> This makes any changes risky and difficult to verify/test.
In regards of PePr, impossible is closer from the reality. Then
talking about pearweb _and_ peclweb, forget it in a volunteer
approach.
> I simply don't think it is useful to point fingers and dwell on the
> past, only to remedy problems we've had for the future. Please keep the
> tone professional, there is no good cause for obscenity and insults,
> this is completely unacceptable behavior on a public mailing list.
My tone is adapted to the level of your propositions and has nothing
to do with professional activities (nobody pays me to waste my time in
this discussion or anything else here).
Your ideas apply to children schools or other similar places, but does
not have their place here. What is unacceptable is that you (as in
many) are bitching me about 1 or 2 unlucky commits and 2 scripts
broken due to register globals turned to off as you broke pearweb for
weeks during the last 6 month (last time being 2 weeks ago for 5
days).
Once again, this discussion is plain stupid. It does not solve the
main problem and only create more animosity between us.
Forget the school analogy, I'm sure such ideas will not even work with
children... (you know, if you do not do that, no dessert/TV and you go
to bed at 8, painfull).
--Pierre