RE: [PEAR-DEV] design of forum applications

| On May 15, 2003 11:25 am, you wrote: | > On Thu, 15 May 2003 10:18:05 -0400 | > | > "Ilia A." <ilia@prohost.org> wrote: | > > Hi Hans, | > > | > > The problem with using PEAR in forum applications is scalability, | > > which is why all major forum applications roll their own database | > > abstraction layers. Unlike simple apps like blogs, forums | tend to be | > > complex high traffic applications where the overhead of | PEAR is just | > > impractical. | > | > The overhead of an abstraction layer when you need | performances. PEAR | > is not that small and I'm not sure we can say "the overhead | of PEAR" :-). | |..... | | I should point out this is not PEAR problem per say, any | major general purpose class abstraction system will suffer | from this regardless of the language. | However, from the few packages I was genuinely interested in | PEAR most were not written with performance in mind. | I think this is a pretty important point. There are things in PEAR that I don't like, but on the whole I think PEAR provides a very solid solution to a number of problems -- and yes a good framework starting point. I think the real problem here is that performance plays far too great a role in the design and implementation of PHP applications. To do the job right usually means building an application that performs poorly. This is true in environements besides PHP, but the requirement that an app's lifecycle be run to completeion while the user waits for a page to load is pretty demanding. I hope that better & easier solutions in the way of bytecode compilers and application sessions will make for some higher-quality PHP products. Hans [not the above-quoted Hans]