Re: Re: Problem with Blocklists on list.php.net

Hello, On 08/05/2002 07:31 AM, AntôNio Carlos VenâNcio JúNior wrote:

| That may not be the right way to solve the problem. The blacklists exist | because spammers were allowed to post from the given zones. The right | way to solve the problem is to contact your ISP to sort out the problems | and they should be the ones to get unlisted. The problem is that the list assumes that ALL users from Brazil are spammers!!

Yes, but living in Brazil like I do as you do, you have to admit that spamming from Brazil has become unbearable lately, especially after many people got ADSL lines.

| If you ignore the blacklists, all sorts of spammers will be allowed to | send messages to the lists. If you are inteligent there are a lot of _good_ blackhole lists out there. This one tries to kill a mosquito with an missile. ;/

Yes, it is stupid. I do not agree either with this kind of blacklisting but honestly I do not know of a better of idea to protect the PHP lists now. The point is to coerce non-spamming users to complain to their ISP so they do something about it.

| I know that UOL the largest Brazilian provider is block SMTP connections | to any servers outside their networks. Hopefully they will have their IP | ranges unlisted soon. No, they won't. I know who admin their SMTPs and already told them that.

What do you mean? The blocking started to happen on July 31st in UOL ADSL routers. It is a recent thing.

But we have 2 problems here: 1. The admin of that black list is in vacation. 2. If you read the page you will see this text: "Yes, I do accept requests for new blocklists. No, none of the currently published blocklists accept removal requests."

Maybe this is not a good blocklist to trust. I am afraid who hosts PHP mailing lists may not want to use a different blocklist.

| Meanwhile, people affected by the blocking may want to try posting via | the news server at news.php.net . I admin a network on my college and I would send mails from there, but its blocked too. P.S.: someone please forward this mail.

You do not need to send any e-mail. It is all over NNTP directly to news.php.net . You may also try posting via Google. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos