Re[2]: [pear-webmaster] Re: Help with installing PEAR

From: Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:21:02 +0000
Subject: Re[2]: [pear-webmaster] Re: Help with installing PEAR
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Hello Greg, >> Also notice, that offline install from 4.3.9 is not possible this way due >> to missing PHPUnit-0.6.x in distributive. Don't know about 4.3.10 >> version. GB> ??? PHPunit is not required to install PEAR. Well, yes, it is not required, but I am unable to install DB, Net_Socket, Net_SMTP, Mail or XML_Parser from PHP distribution in offline mode like it might be described in PHP PEAR books or tutorials. "The following PEAR packages are bundled with PHP: DB, Net_Socket, Net_SMTP, Mail, XML_Parser, PHPUnit-0.6.2." I guess you know where this phrase comes from, but it is lie - PHPUnit-0.6.2 is not bundled with PHP anymore. It is sad to notice, that the problem was introduced in 4.3.9 and followed into 4.3.10 through some -RC releases. >>>>Try getting that kind of support from Microsoft if you want a >>>>comparison. Regardless of how much $$$ you give them. >> The only difference from MS here is if you will be too active, you can be >> blacklisted. =) And support here is not guaranteed by any means. =/ GB> where at MS or here? If you're talking about here, then you know that GB> there is no blacklist, just annoyed people. Question above was already arised some time ago in this ML. There were even some patches, but I don't have any information about them being integrated. See: Re[2]: [PEAR-DEV] Re: go-pear. Was:Re[2]: [PEAR-DEV] XML_RPC start http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=pear-dev&m=110243086805761&w=2 some follow-ups (can't find message from Lukas Smith though, it is dated 80 minutes later after my post) http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=110243298400004&r=1&w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=110252731500002&r=1&w=2 Support here is very different and sometimes too often it is trying to convince "you don't need that" in opposite to following guidelines of commercial support "client always right". It is a pity to receive an answer "me works for free - i don't have no time nor desire to do that" or even worse "i won't apply it and I hope others on the team won't either" though patch was already done and tested. In couple with strict rules about PEAR developers must be lead for useful packages it is almost impossible to make something good for PEAR when everybody else are too busy. Either quality or community - IMHO PEAR need to define priorities. t --

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