Re: Debian and the PHP license

> You're advocating a position, then, that the PHP license can require > recipients to make false, and even nonsensical, claims, and that this is > not a problem to be addressed by improving the license terms. I think that this is similar to the BSD licenses. Look at /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD. It specifically states: Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission. From this, it would seem that it is possible to use this license even if you are not the University. Why else would Debian keep this in /usr/share/common-licenses? > Is that the position of the PHP Group: that a requirement for the > recipient to make false claims is “absolutely no problem” of the > license? I don't think that the position of the PHP Group is that requiring the recipient to make false claims is "absolutely no problem"; the license works for *them*; it just doesn't work for anyone else who chooses to use their license >> When applied to software that is not available from *.php.net, the >> license terms may not be sensible, but they still can be followed. > > Is the fact they can't sensibly be followed not a problem to be > addressed by improving the license terms? It could be addressed by improving the licensing terms, but it isn't necessary, and the PHP Group seems very unwilling to do so.