Re: Re: PHP Standards and Best Practices for PHP 5.3+ Frameworks and Libraries

From: Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:00:11 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: PHP Standards and Best Practices for PHP 5.3+ Frameworks and Libraries
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reHi Hannes, It was my understanding (and someone else who was there, feel free to correct me) but yes, we discussed and voted. It was agreed that each framework represented got a single vote and Travis spoke for PEAR. So no, I do not believe the three decisions made should be re-opened for discussion. No, I am not kidding, there was ample discussion on each of these items. I'm sure if we missed something in the standards it will come to light and once it does, at that point, if all parties agree, we can re-open discussion on items voted on. I am only talking about the decisions, not the example code. If there is a typo in the example code, of course we can revise it. Actually, in reading the notes on the resolutions that passed, I think Brett did an excellent job. I'm happy to run them by a few other PHP developers to make sure that the descriptions are correct but the descriptions aren't what was voted on, the resolution were. We can always add text to make things clearer as long as the original resolution isn't changed. I apologize if I've jumped the gun, if your intent was to just clarify descriptions and sample code. It sounded like you wanted to re-open the discussions on items that had already been passed. =C= p.s. I forgot to Reply All so Hannes got 2 copies of this email and was nice enough to point out my error. :) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Hannes Magnusson < hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:21, Cal Evans <cal@calevans.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > While I disagree with Hannes about the SHOULD, aren't re-hashing a > > discussion? It was my understanding that what was agreed upon in the > meeting > > had been voted on and is now accepted. Let's not re-open things that have > > already been agreed upon. > > The reason why the PHP project makes all decisions on public > mailinglists is exactly to avoid rehashing discussions. > For those of us who did not hear any arguments with or against > anything - just "take it or leave it" standard.. Are you kidding? > If I'm not allowed to discuss this and find out why this best practice > then something is very wrong here. > > What if you guys missed somethings? Made typos in crucial examples? > Missing explanations that you feel are implied since you participated > in the entire conversation but are total magic to first-time-readers? > > > -Hannes >

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