Re: [PHP4BETA] calling member in parent class

On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > On Mon, 07 Feb 2000, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > Was that question directed to me? Again, it doesn't really matter. In > > both cases, you would have to: > > 1. Modify the parent class (which is what we're talking about in the > > first place). > > 2. Modify any of its derived classes. > > > > The only difference is whether you modify just the word after the > > 'extends' keyword, or all of the occurences of the parent class name in > > the file that contains a given derived class. > > Tell me then, why does Java have keyword 'super'? I mean, they could > also just rename the Parent classes whenever appropriate. Regardless of my answer, another language having it is not a good reason to add a feature to our language. At best, it's some sort of an excuse... I just asked a friend of mine that is infinitely more fluent in Java than I am, and he said that this is basically the only way to call parent methods in Java (you can't call methods using a hardcoded class name). Why Java picked that way? I don't know, you could argue that it's better. But there's no question about it being functionaly equivalent to allowing hardcoded name-based method calls. I'll remind you all, again, that I'm not religiously against this feature. I'm just saying that there's no doubt that it's not *necessary*, as in, you can live just fine without it, and it won't impair your life in any way. That means it's a low priority, and classified as something we might do in the future if we have lots of free time, and if everybody agrees that it's a good idea to do it (which is still questionable, even though I don't have a well-established opinion about it yet). Finally, because Zend is feature frozen, and as I promised two days ago, it's *REALLY* feature-frozen now (bug fixes only), we won't add this in the near future, definitely not before PHP 4.0 final. Zeev -- Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> http://www.zend.com/