Re: Turning beta into production

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Hannes Magnusson <hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Levi Morrison <morrison.levi@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> If we probide beta=0 option I think we will wind up in the same > >> situation, stalled effort as people just set their preferences to > >> beta=0 "until the new look is finished". > > > > This is just one more reason to not launch it until it is better. I > > think that there has been a reasonable amount of coding over the last > > two years to suggest that this hasn't died but is simply moving along > > slowly. It's hard when you only have a couple of committers who > > aren't in sync and never get to work on the project at the same time. > > Having some grand idea of what "finished" means has proven not to work > and requires more work then we have to spare. > Incremental updates, and checking which stuff works out and what > doesn't, is pretty much the only way to go. Perhaps having an idea of what "finished" means has proven not to work, but I think it's pretty easy to have an idea of what "finished" is not. The current prototype is not finished. Sure, there are a lot of minor things that can be incrementally fixed and I'm perfectly fine with that. However, I believe there are other, non-superficial issues that need to be fixed. Some are listed at: https://wiki.php.net/web/redesign/howtohelp