Re: reply to jp analysis

"Giuseppe D'Ambrosio" <da_g@altavista.com> a écrit dans le message news: 20000614102633.26537.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net... > On Wed, 14 June 2000, jp tunt wrote: > > > > > Thanks to developpers for the very good php4 but ... > > 1) always and always sessions crash with php4 (cvs snapshot > > and php4 final) when session.save_handler = file ? Is there > > a tips ? (jsp an asp have *working* sessions since many > > y..)! > > > > 2) On winNT & w2k php4 doesnt seem to try to load php.ini > > from the root dir the current web site but it works with > > php.ini or with PHPRC variable (when there is more than one > > site or virtual site it's most useable to have separates > > config files for each web site and not in registry). > > > > 3) I'm not able to compile domxml extension (it's very > > important for most web dev.) always link errors. > > > > I think it will be good to really finish the > > implementation of the latest functions and modules of php4 > > before adding new functions. Most new functions have bugs > > and it's normal but there is very big bugs (like sessions > > that always (or near always) crash since the start on > > win32) that are more none verified implentation than bugs. > > The last things is that the support of win32 is not very > > clear "you really want continue to develop. php4 on win 32 > > or not ?". If you want do this please take attention of > > win32 users and dev. Sample of win32 users reaction "i'm > > not sure but it just seems like the 4.0 developers dont > > care about win32" (take from php-windows list). > > > > excuse me for my english and thanks to all php4 > > developpers. > > > > jp > > > > > > > I agree with jp on most of the questions (in particular about the bad sensations we windows-users (WU) could have) but I think this situation is due to > > 1) instability of windows platform (eg I still have a problem with mail() because of win. dlls) > 2) scarce cooperation with the php-project : > 3) less average technical ability (with all respect) in comparison with linux developers > 4) often we WU have to persuade our working environment to use php (instead of ASP or ather shits..) and have to prove it's a good solution (so I've got very little time to develop or test) > > my conclusion is that if we (WU) want more support we have to give something back (you know "the cathedral and the bazaar"? , www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/ ), get more involved in testing and less in using php (almost in this switching phase from php3 to 4) > (I am doing what I can and more..) > > > bye > > Giuse Agree with you, guys Concerning Giuseppe not agree with 1) for the mail function it's not windows but a surprising things in mail.c : all e-mail is limited to 4kb max if you exceed this limit win32 crash (cool bug) I've posted a bug and remarks several times (perhaps > one years, exist in php3). what happens ???? nothing ! (Always say "it's the fault of win32" is easy for some persons but i' am work with more than 5 years with big servers under nt4 & linux and all work fines (each OSwith goods and bads aspects). Oracle ,IBM, Microsoft have very heavy and complex solutions on win32: I think it's possible to have stable win32 php4 build like are Oracle server, SQL server, IIS, Netscape merchant... It's to php4 project leaders to confirm to 'win32 is important' and give orientation to the project (there is no orientation like for netscape 6). Projects as ZOPE manage to develop under unix and windows with the same functionality. If you open the TODO you can read "add remarks in the documentation which functions are not implemented on win32" and not "make all the possible to implement all function on win32":: It is certainly the best example of the attitude towards the user of win32 platforms. nestor