Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DB] Re: MySql or postgre?

I just have on thing to say: Paul, I read your book about MySQL and I can tell you it was the first book about databases that added to my knowledge more than expressions and functions. People like you and Doug Semig are above the average (forgive me if I am forgetting someone - I'm talking about people that really helped me) and the only thing that I can tell you is that you don't need to answer this kind of e-mails. MySQL is more live than ever and not a single word can any person in this world say against the freedom that it gives to developers. Yes, it's not perfect (yet). What about all the other that have long years of existance and still have problems? Man, thank you very much for what you've done for the Internet. Doug, the same to you. People like you make us believe in Open Source and also of an Internet community full of people that help each other a lot. Greed is everywhere but this happends only to good people like you. Never mind. We know what MySQL is. We know what is behind the scenes. God bless you all!!! Best regards, Fábio Ottolini An admirer of everything that is good ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul DuBois" <paul@snake.net> To: "Alexey Borzov" <borz_off@rdw.ru> Cc: <php-db@lists.php.net> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:28 PM Subject: Re[2]: [PHP-DB] Re: MySql or postgre? > At 6:49 PM +0300 11/28/00, Alexey Borzov wrote: > > >> Well, a metaphor once again: > >>> "Second parties adding transactions and row-level locking to the > >>>RDBMS" is like "Second parties are adding 3D engine to Quake". It > >>>means one > >>>thing: program's own developers are INCOMPETENT. > > > >BH> Not in the least. It means outside developers want to use the > >BH> software for purposes the original developers didn't have in mind. > >BH> Since it is open source, they can do that. The fact that outside > >BH> developers consider MySQL a good base for further development is > >BH> testament to the original developers competence. > >::shrug:: > >Transactions are a vital part of RDBMS. If its developers fail to > >understand this (or fail to implement them) - then... > > You're arguing both sides of the question. Here you claim that the MySQL > developers fail to understand the importance of adding transaction support, > they are incompetent. Previously you argued that because they added > transaction support, they are incompetent just because they didn't do all > the work themselves. > > In any case, I doubt that the developers have ever claimed that transactions > are *not* important, just that in their view other things (like speed) are > more important for the applications they needed. The addition of transaction > support happened because they were able to build on the work of others. You > characterize that as incompetence. I'd say it makes a lot of sense to use > that approach, rather than reinventing the wheel. > > I take it you never use any software you didn't write yourself, because > that would mean you weren't competent to write it? > > -- > Paul DuBois, paul@snake.net