Re: [PHP3] Re: [PHP-DEV] More SOAP or Dampen Thy Evangelical Fires oh Disciples

From: Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 01:48:43 +0000
Subject: Re: [PHP3] Re: [PHP-DEV] More SOAP or Dampen Thy Evangelical Fires oh Disciples
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this says ryan gaul wrote. i didn't. it was another contributor to the thread. On Tue, 06 Jun 2000, rubys@us.ibm.com wrote: > Ryan Gaul wrote: > > No, be cause you validate their clames that the standard is good, and > > then they extend it to be incompatable and since they are the standard > > platform, you have to go along, or be left behind. > > > > Either way we loose it. Better to not push it in the begining and hope > > it doesnt become as big a standard. > > > > Not posible to beat MS at their own game. their just too good at it. > > I disagree. > > MS will never embrace CORBA, so that makes CORBA face a significant uphill > battle. DCOM is not open. There is a need for an open alternative. > > MS got an early start with SOAP, but IBM participated in the 1.1 spec and > got an open source implementation out to xml.apache.org. In fact, we got > our open source implementation out before MS did! ;-) > > Because we did this in Java, we have Sun bought in. > > I do believe that it is possible for Apache and open source to beat MS at > their own game. > > - Sam Ruby > > P.S. When all is said and done, Beating MS, or IBM or Sun for that matter > doesn't make your product a winner. Solving somebody's problem, being > open, and playing well with others does. Soap is just a protocol - and if > it can be used to communicate with servers built using COM++ as well as > other servers built using EJBs then so much the better. > > > > -- > PHP 3 Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> > To unsubscribe, send an empty message to php3-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php3-digest-subscribe@lists.php.net > To search the mailing list archive, go to: > http://www.php.net/mailsearch.php3 > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net -- Marge, look at me! We've been separated for a day, and I'm as dirty <BR>as a Frenchman. In another few hours, I'll be dead. I can't afford <BR>to lose your trust again. <BR> <BR> -- Homer Simpson <BR> Secrets of a Successful Marriage

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