Re: [PHP3] Re: [PHP-DEV] More SOAP or Dampen Thy Evangelical Fires oh Disciples
| From: | Ryan Gaul | Date: | Wed, 07 Jun 2000 01:48:43 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [PHP3] Re: [PHP-DEV] More SOAP or Dampen Thy Evangelical Fires oh Disciples | ||
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this says ryan gaul wrote. i didn't. it was another contributor to the thread.
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000, rubys@us.ibm.com wrote:
> Ryan Gaul wrote:
> > No, be cause you validate their clames that the standard is good, and
> > then they extend it to be incompatable and since they are the standard
> > platform, you have to go along, or be left behind.
> >
> > Either way we loose it. Better to not push it in the begining and hope
> > it doesnt become as big a standard.
> >
> > Not posible to beat MS at their own game. their just too good at it.
>
> I disagree.
>
> MS will never embrace CORBA, so that makes CORBA face a significant uphill
> battle. DCOM is not open. There is a need for an open alternative.
>
> MS got an early start with SOAP, but IBM participated in the 1.1 spec and
> got an open source implementation out to xml.apache.org. In fact, we got
> our open source implementation out before MS did! ;-)
>
> Because we did this in Java, we have Sun bought in.
>
> I do believe that it is possible for Apache and open source to beat MS at
> their own game.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
> P.S. When all is said and done, Beating MS, or IBM or Sun for that matter
> doesn't make your product a winner. Solving somebody's problem, being
> open, and playing well with others does. Soap is just a protocol - and if
> it can be used to communicate with servers built using COM++ as well as
> other servers built using EJBs then so much the better.
>
>
>
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