Re: Fw: PHP XMF
| From: | Zeev Suraski | Date: | Sun, 22 Jul 2001 13:24:45 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Fw: PHP XMF | ||
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Michael,
Don't let this kind of stuff let you down. You got a very cold shower as your intro to the opensource community, but this isn't the way it's always like. You were exposed to some of the drawbacks in this model, so you wouldn't have any idealistic expectations, but a bit more rational ones... But as I said in the beginning, if you learn to grow a slightly thicker skin and just go on and contribute, there are good chances things would work off.
My suggestion to you is to just go on with your project, and possibly try to interest other people to join in. If you have more concrete needs from us (as in the PHP group), let us know.
Zeev
At 14:47 22/07/2001, Michael Glazer wrote:
Your right. Its no big deal. My tactics have failed. I'm beyond that I don't expect anything else. What concerns me at this point is the attitude of you folks its pretty endearing and warm hearted to say the least. I feel now, more than ever, a greater sense towards the open source community. The sense of inclusion and participation seeps out of these emails that it makes me want to stay up all night and code great new ideas all night and give it to this great community.... Note: American sarcasm and irony -Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Björn Schotte" <bjoern@baer.main.de> To: "Michael Glazer" <mglazer@4arrow.com> Cc: "Rasmus Lerdorf" <rasmus@php.net>; <php-dev@lists.php.net> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fw: PHP XMF * Michael Glazer wrote:-- Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> CTO & co-founder, Zend Technologies Ltd. http://www.zend.com/I feel I want to yell and scream out, "who does he think he is?"Michael, _you_ want to "sell" something to the php.net folks. Why should anybody of them fall to their knees and praise you for your idea/suggestion? If I look up this e-mail conversation, I only see somebody (you) who sells himself very poorly and who says "But mummy, I want to have my project on a sub-domain at php.net!!!". You aren't in the position to clamour for something. You are in the position to sell your product/project in such a manner that php.net folks say "Oh, good, nice project, let's give him a sub domain". If they won't (which I can understand), you failed your tactics.----- Original Message -----[...] Please consider http://learn.to/quote/, thanks. --PHP Schulungen und | International PHP Conference Schulungsmaterial: | 05. - 07.11.2001 http://thinkphp.de/ | Astron Hotel, Frankfurthttp://rent-a-phpwizard.de/schulungen.php | http://www.php-kongress.de/ -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-dev-unsubscribe@lists.php.net For additional commands, e-mail: php-dev-help@lists.php.net To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net