Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] RE: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

> eg: simple db-based shopping cart web site? use PHP... complex internet > backing system? use Java. Easy! Use PHP! Easier. Look, I've built hideously complex things with PHP - commerce systems that do stream encryption on a per-field basis, complex interconnected process stuff, large APIs, everything. PHP is _already_ serious, it is being used for large, complex applications with deep APIs. > Is this all that much of an issue to implement MI, Pub/Pri/Prot > methods/vars, possibly interfaces? Not to be Java, but to extend PHP... > all those would help PHP as a *web based language* (hell it would help any > language IMHO - given that its optional and not enforced). Isnt that the > long term goal of PHP (or ZE)? To provide a most powerful backend for > scripting languages, and to provide a RAD tool for creating websites (or > web based systems) quickly, easily and powerfully? All the above would > take a step closer to both those goals. Well said. I think the core of everyone's argument is that we're not asking for java, we don't want java. We're asking for some incremental _additions_ to PHP OO that do not break BC, that will help us work with more advanced PHP OO systems. That's it. I don't want to see PHP turn into java because I dislike java intensely. I like the freedom given to me by PHP. > Unless Im missing the mark - for which I appologise. The PHP Group as a > whole seems to have mixed feelings on this issue - could there be some > form of concensus so that I (and many others on this list) can work out if > the requested extra functionality is either ruled out, in for PHP version > x, or undecided and under continued debate. I think all sides have made > their opinions crystal clear. yes, I think some sort of clear vision of what you guys would like to see happen over the next year would help us all and likely end this thread. best, -alex