Re: Freeware PHP Ides
| From: | Fernando Lozano | Date: | Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:47:17 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Freeware PHP Ides | ||
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Hi jeremy,
> > By the way, I could find some nice PHP editors for Windows (like
> > HTML-Kit) but I could not find a good editor for Linux. Anyone can
> > point me to the right direction?
>
> http://www.vim.org/ (you probably already have it installed on
> your
> system.)
I already use Vim for Linux and for Windows also, but I'd like some
features like context-sensitive help for PHP keywords and functions,
which I guess are possible with Vim but I could not find yet. I'd
also like a more "user-friendly" PHP editor for Linux, because Vim
is too difficult for ex-Windows programmers to learn.
> > Another question: There is any tool that can debug a PHP script?
> > That is, stop at breakponts, run the script line by line, and
> > inspect the value of variables while it is run? This is the big
> > argument I cannot question when someone tell me I should use ASP and
> > InterDev instead... :-(
>
> the PHP interpreter will tell you on which line numbers and files you
> are having problems. PHP is also very loosly typed, and therefor it
> is nearly impossible to have an un-debugable program.
I have no problems with debuging PHP scripts, but InterDev
step-by-step debuging of ASP scripts is a feature many times I face
when some customer is choosing between PHP and ASP, and many times
that feature makes him choose ASP. A step-by-step debugger would
also be very nice to debug class libraries, when you have more logic
and less HTML.
> I'm not saying you are, but if you are having that much difficulty
> with PHP, I would step back and try and learn it a little better.
> Grab a book or check out http://www.php.net/manual/
I am not woried about my difficulties, but with the problems getting
a development team used to Windows tools to get productive with PHP
on Windows and Linux. It's getting harder and harder to find the
old-styule programmer, who can write, understand and debug code
without help of a Visual IDE. And, despite the fact that a Visual
IDE adds too few to Internet Development, customers are used to
evaluate Visual IDEs and think they are better, a priori, than
command-line tools.
[]s, Fernando Lozano