Re: Re: Opinions / Votes Needed

From: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:01:36 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: Opinions / Votes Needed
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"Nathan Rixham" <nrixham@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4973B738.3010504@gmail.com... > Tony Marston wrote: >> "Stuart" <stuttle@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:a5f019de0901181322i2a4cbfaam4d36eff843f42300@mail.gmail.com... >>> 2009/1/18 Tony Marston <tony@marston-home.demon.co.uk>: >>>> In case you have forgotten what this thread is about, the OP gave a >>>> list of >>>> suggested "improvements" to PHP and asked for opinions. I merely gave >>>> my >>>> opinion that these "improvements" would be a waste of time as they >>>> would add >>>> nothing to the language (IMHO, of course). How many in this frum have >>>> expressed any support for any of these "improvements"? >>> That's not the point. You attacked the suggester not the suggestions. >>> That's all I'm trying to point out. There's a way to disagree in a >>> reasonable manner. >> >> Anybody who suggests that PHP be changed from dynamic typing to static >> typing is feeble minded, one brick short of a full load, one sandwich >> short of a picnic, off his trolley, talking out of the wrong end of his >> alimentary canal, etc, etc. In my humble opinion, of course. > > luckily.. nobody suggested that You suggested that. You original post specifically said "static typing" and not "type hinting". There is a BIG difference. -- Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net http://www.radicore.org > and the only person who came close was tony himself :D perhaps the phrase > "optional type hinting of variables and class properties" is more > appropriate ;) > >>>> "not be feasible" covers "loss of performance", "loss of BC" and "a >>>> whole >>>> bunch of other issues". If the cost of implementing your "improvements" >>>> is >>>> not worth the dubious benefit then why should they considered? >>> Without adequate investigation or comment from people who actually >>> know about this stuff it's impossible to say whether the costs are too >>> great to make them acceptable against the benefits. >>> >>> OO had a massive negative effect on performance, but it still happened >>> because the benefits greatly outweighed the costs. IMHO all ideas >>> should be properly considered, regardless of my gut reaction to them. >> >> Statuic typing is unworthy of consideration in a language whch has made >> its bones from being dynamically typed. In my humble opinion, of course. >> > > luckily.. nobody suggested that and the only person who came close was > tony himself :D perhaps the phrase "optional type hinting of variables and > class properties" is more appropriate ;) > > ground hog day!

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