Re: Compiled Source for PHP?
| From: | Dallas Kropka | Date: | Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:42:41 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Compiled Source for PHP? | ||
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yes, but what if you are building an application for commercial
distribution??? Then you will certainly not want the general public to see
how your system works...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Stump" <joe@earth.care2.com>
To: "James Moore" <jmoore@php.net>
Cc: <php-general@lists.php.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Compiled Source for PHP?
> I release everything GPL so this is kind of null and void. I personally
never
> understood the reason for "hiding" code. Most people that you are giving
your
> code to (ie a client) has a right to your code since it's usually done
under
> a "work for hire" contract - so you hiding it usually breaks that.
>
> If you want to "sell" PHP I would recommend co-branding or becoming an
ASP.
>
> --Joe
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 10:14:29PM -0000, James Moore wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > IIRC, what it will do is work with precompiled Zend bytecode and
> > > then parse
> > > that when the page is requested. Writing a decompiler wouldn't be
terribly
> > > difficult, so there's probably not that much security, even if
encrypted.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Joe Stump wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll believe it when I see it - and according to Rasmus it's
> > > only going to be
> > > > an obfusicator (or however you spell it) which means if you
> > > have it on your
> > > > machine you can jsut unobfusicate it.
> > > >
> >
> > >From what I have heard and seen myself this is TOTALLY UNTRUE there is
no
> > easy way to unencode the code. The alogarithms are very complex and
> > difficult to decode back to PHP. You might conciveably get it back to
Zend
> > Bytecode (I havnt seen the alogaritms that Zeev and Andi used) but I
would
> > imagine that would be a task in itself and when you get it back to byte
code
> > its still not much use.. youll have real fun reading through the
bytecode
> > and figureing out whats happening? Every decompiled a C/C++ app? You
know
> > you get it in ASM lang at best?? It will be like reading that but
without
> > any real documentation.. I havnt seen any copies of the decompiled win32
> > source code going about cause someone decompiled it to ASM then
translated
> > it back to C.. if you are clever enough to do that then there is no need
for
> > you to do it as you could write a far superior application in the time.
> >
> > As for the Jan release date I would imagine that is also accurate so I
hope
> > you will all be getting your copy from Zend on the 23rd January..Sign up
> > your email here http://www.zend.com/store_update.php and
> > be notified of
the
> > release and opening of the store when it happens.
> >
> > James
> > --
> > James Moore
> > PHP Quality Assurance Team
> > jmoore@php.net
> >
>
> ---
> Joe Stump
> PHP Programmer
> www.Care2.com
>
>
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