RE: [PHP] Printing on a local printer
| From: | James Moore | Date: | Sun, 24 Dec 2000 00:41:24 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: [PHP] Printing on a local printer | ||
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The problem with your method is he didnt want to use the pdf_* functions
James
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James Moore
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Bouw [mailto:maillist@mubo.nl]
> Sent: 24 December 2000 00:19
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Printing on a local printer
>
>
> Hmmm, you guys are making it sound more difficult than it sounds.....
>
> I am freelancer and made the ordering software for a small
> E-commerce site..
> (www.perfectbody.nl)
>
> In the above example the problem was that when an order was made COD (cash
> on delivery) there
> needs to be printed 3 papers.
>
> The first is the shipping paper, which must be done on a matrix printer
> because it has 4 layes paper with carbon paper in between.
> The second is the paper which the post-man takes with him to pay
> the sender
> of the package
> The last is the bill that the receiver gets from the company..
>
> Because the shipping paper is on a chain, it is necessary to print very
> exactly..
>
> There are two approaches: 1 is to create a HTML document which should be
> printed by hand.. Nice thing about this is that
> you can print this from any machine without any aditional software.
>
> The other option which is far better, is to generate a PDF file.
> I used this
> approach..
> For each paper we have a seperate printer. Because there were some old 486
> machines laying around I used one for every printer.
> (This was easier and cheaper time-wise than installing and
> fiddling with an
> extra printer ports for one machine.)
>
> The PDF's are generated and when an order is made the 3 machines start
> processing there jobs and prints all papers..
> The nice thing about PDF's is that they can be stored away easily in an
> database to exactly get an copy of all papers when problems arrive.
>
> Only problem with the above setup, is that it's a bit spooky because when
> someone else in the world places an order the printers start to
> print an order no-one knows about or has ever seen.. :-)
> This also creates an problem when some joker places 1000 fake orders.. :-)
>
> Well, the PDF generation can be done with PDFlib of ClibPDF.. The printing
> can be done with ghostscipt..
> PDFlib is compiled into PHP, it shouldn't be hard to ask an
> administrator to
> do this.. You need access to the printer port, if you can get
> this, you will
> probably also have
> the possibilities to install such a package if needed..
>
> Nice thing when generating PDF's, is that you can also enbed
> barcode fonts..
> With this you can give the client a barcode number when he makes
> his orders
> which is then
> also printed on the shipment papers..
>
> Well, hope this helps..
>
> Bye Bye
>
>
> > I _have_ to use the pre-printed forms so I can't generate a "browser
> > version" and simply let the user print it.
> >
> > I'm on Linux and can't install pdflib or use Adobe software.
> >
> > Because I am in a controlled environment I could use JS.
> >
> > Any examples?
> >
> > Thanks for all your help!
> >
> > Simon.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz]
> > > Sent: zaterdag 23 december 2000 18:15
> > > To: James Moore; Kraa de Simon; Kraa de Simon; Php-General (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Printing on a local printer
> > >
> > >
> > > He needed to print out some forms, and IIRC it was in a
> > > controled environment, so javascript shouldn't really be
> > > a problem. BUT, if he can produce images (create image of
> > > a form? eh, ugly), he can produce PDF documents, as well.
> > > IF his server is win32 based, and IF either of the two
> > > PDF libs can't be used on that platform, he would have to
> > > resort to spending one hell of a budget on Adobe Distiller
> > > or what it's called, and create the documents in that through
> > > COM. But this discussion isn't leading nowhere, because we
> > > don't know what system's he running, whether he can use / buy
> > > the Adobe software, etc...
> > >
> > >
> > > At 18:10 23.12. 2000, James Moore wrote the following:
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >Well then we are into dcom.. it requires the user to have to
> > > correct com
> > > >objects and also you probably to be running a win 2k server
> > > then use com to
> > > >create the word document.. let the user download it (maybe
> > > its even possible
> > > >with com to force this to happen) and load it into their
> > > version of word but
> > > >I really doubt this is possible.. I can see so many security
> > > things in there
> > > >that I dont think you could do it like that.. maybe creating
> > > an image is an
> > > >option then using javascript print() (which 99% of the time in 99% of
> > > >browsers is disabled for obvious reasons) the other option
> > > is Java appelets
> > > >or somesuch but thats the best I can come up with.. its not
> > > easy as it can
> > > >be used malicously I would be in favour of creating a nice
> > > HTML page and
> > > >makeing the user choose file->print from their menu.. thats
> > > what we normally
> > > >do in shoppingcart systems with orders and loose the
> > > horrible pre printed
> > > >orderforms.
> > > >
> > > >James
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz]
> > > >> Sent: 23 December 2000 17:01
> > > >> To: James Moore; Kraa de Simon; Kraa de Simon; Php-General (E-mail)
> > > >> Subject: RE: [PHP] Printing on a local printer
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> James,
> > > >>
> > > >> this is nice, but the guy was looking for a way to CREATE
> > > >> PDF documents WITHOUT pdf_* functions. PLUS he wanted to
> > > >> print them on the client, not the server, and I hesitate
> > > >> to assume it's gonna be one machine.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> At 17:59 23.12. 2000, James Moore wrote the following:
> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> >If itsa all running on a local computer then you might also want
> > > >> to look at
> > > >> >COM in PHP to open up your acrobat doc and print it out.. Its
> > > >> very possible
> > > >> >but I wouldnt want to be the person doing it as your going to be
> > > >> using a lot
> > > >> >of code that hasnt been used thourghly so might run into
> > > the odd querk..
> > > >> >rember to report any you find but somthing like
> > > >> >
> > > >> ><?php
> > > >> >// Get Data Here...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >$pi = pdf_open(...);
> > > >> >// Create PDF here using PDF_* functions
> > > >> >// save PDF
> > > >> >
> > > >> >$ai = new COM(application.acrobat);
> > > >> >$ai.open(pdf file);
> > > >> >$ai.print();
> > > >> >$ai.close(pdf file);
> > > >> >?>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >That would print on the server computer.. you would need dcom
> > > >> etc otherwise
> > > >> >and Im totally unfamiliar with that but hopefully that
> > > will give you a
> > > >> >pointer in the right direction (PS all my functions are probably
> > > >> wrong and
> > > >> >are just there to give psudo code).
> > > >> >
> > > >> >James
> > > >> >--
> > > >> >James Moore
> > > >> >PHP Quality Assurance Team
> > > >> >jmoore@php.net
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz]
> > > >> >> Sent: 23 December 2000 15:58
> > > >> >> To: Kraa de Simon; Kraa de Simon; Php-General (E-mail)
> > > >> >> Subject: RE: [PHP] Printing on a local printer
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> No, you cannot.[*]
> > > >> >> You need a software that will _create_ the PDF's. You
> > > >> >> wouldn't
> > > >> >> be able to use mysql_* functions in PHP if MySQL client wasn't
> > > >> >> compiled into PHP. When you want to create PDF documents from
> > > >> >> within PHP, you need a software that will do it, and compile
> > > >> >> PHP with support for that software. You can either use PDFLib
> > > >> >> or CLibPDF.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> * You could probably create PDF documents from within PHP
> > > >> >> _without_ either of these _provided_ you:
> > > >> >> 1) were on windows,
> > > >> >> 2) had software from Adobe capable of creating PDF files
> > > >> >> (not Acrobat Reader - it's called Reader for a reason)
> > > >> >> 3) that software had COM interface
> > > >> >> But I'm not sure about this, so don't cite me. :)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> At 16:43 23.12. 2000, Kraa de Simon wrote the following:
> > > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> >> >But I can use the pdf_* functions _without_ installing
> > > >> >> additional products
> > > >> >> >like pdflib?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >When I use pdf_open() is a new PDF file opened in Acrobat or
> > > >> something???
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Huh???
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> >> From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz]
> > > >> >> >> Sent: zaterdag 23 december 2000 16:38
> > > >> >> >> To: Kraa de Simon; Php-General (E-mail)
> > > >> >> >> Subject: Re: [PHP] Printing on a local printer
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> I reckon your hair will turn white on this, unless you use
> > > >> >> >> PDFLib (or the other one) to generate the files. And it
> > > >> >> >> might
> > > >> >> >> even then.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> At 16:22 23.12. 2000, Kraa de Simon wrote the following:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> >> >> >Hi,
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >A customer wants data from an html form printed on
> > > a local printer.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >We are talking about pre-printed forms; so only data
> > > >> >> >> >like
> > > >> >> >> name, address,
> > > >> >> >> >price must be send to the printer.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >How could/should I handle this using PHP?
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >I can't think of anything else of displaying the
> > > >> >> >> >fields on
> > > >> >> >> the screen in the
> > > >> >> >> >right positions and use browser capabilities to
> > > print the screen?
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >But than I'm sure I will have problems with
> > > >> >> >> >offset/layout of
> > > >> >> >> the fields and
> > > >> >> >> >I don't like this solution.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >Any advice/help will be appreciated!
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >Simon.
> > > >> >> >> >
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> > > >> >> >> A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers who
> > > >> >> >> taught
> > > >> >> >> that virtue constitutes happiness and that self control is
> > > >> >> >> the essential part of virtue.
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> > > >> >> A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers who taught
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