Re: Better known PHP users list

I actually have some code in the works to revamp the sites listing along with a couple of other parts of php.net. I revisit it every now and then. At some point I am going to have to force myself to sit down and finish it. Something more important always seems to come along. -Rasmus On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: > hi, > > this is certainly a good thing, but imho, it suffers from the same problems that an official > list do: > 1. there's no concrete urls clearly demonstrating the usage of php. > 2. it would be also nice to have (at least estimated) percentage of php usage on the site > (e.g., the ratio |php-generated pages| / |all displayable pages|). > > many customers are curious about the "technology" used in their web sites, and get > confused when they hear "php". much effort is needed to convince them, since they: > 1. want good-looking site. seems that to show another "good" site using php is > enough. > 2. want "speed", whatever is meant by it. one can't explain the distinction > between bandwidth, web server, application server, database server -- customers don't like > things they don't understand. to show a "fast" site is not enough -- concrete > benchmarks are needed. > 3. want maintainability. they tend to think that with asp or other visual tool they don't > need to hire qualified staff. the argument of the manager is "in an emergency even me (even a > hardware technician) can fix it". this one is difficult. how would one show the equivalence of > the maintenance to a person with strong prejudices / bias towards "visual" tools? > > i think that php will spread faster if we can deliver these issues to our customers' > minds. and "ubiquitous" means "popular". > > i use a different account to read this list, so please cc the replies (if any) to me. > > with best regards, > baurjan. > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 07:01:46PM -0700, Chris Adams wrote: > > Just in case anyone else is running into the "Who's using PHP?" questions > > from clients, I've compiled a short list of some better known sites which > > use PHP. The focus is on name recognition since a certain subset of the > > client population care more about doing what everyone else is doing rather > > than considering what's best for their needs. I've added some of the sites > > mentioned on the recent thread on this list. As always, corrections or > > additions are strongly encouraged. > > > > http://gateway.digitaria.com/~chris/php/sites.html > >